Where does the first jet engine come from?

[Bigboy]

Uh - read the question buddy.

You are describing where the SECOND engine comes from. The question is asking where the FIRST one comes from - the one that crashes through Donnies room at the beginning in the Tangent Universe.

There is some discussion on it which suggests that the first engine is a 'copying error' (hence artifact). That is, its a duplicate caused by the 'Corruption' in spacetime described in the POTT: darkomovie.proboards24.com/index.cgi?board=ending&action=display&thread=1106611692

[greedy]

thats what i think bigboy u need an artifact

[Bigboy]

greedy - I don't want to sound rude, but is there any danger of you using some punctuation? Most of your posts are decipherable, but I'm admitting defeat here:

thats what i think bigboy u need an artifact

could be written as:
'Thats what i think bigboy. You need an artifact '
or
'Thats what i think. Bigboy you need an artifact.'

They mean different things - one agrees with me the other doesn't

(sorry again for aounding like a teacher

[greedy]

thats alright i failed grammar i am agreeing with u

[christopher]

The jet engine that crashed into donnie bedroom near the begining of the movie is the key to EVERYTHING.
You see, this jet engine came from NOWHERE initially. It's creation was a result of the corruption of the space time continuum. How this corruption occured is not made clear, but one can assume that this type of occurence, although rare, does occur on occasion. Robert Sparrow's book THE PHYLOSPHY OF TIME alludes to this.
This corruption created a paradox in which this engine appeared out of nowwhere and then crashed thru Donnie's bedroom nearly killing him. Since everything in the universe must come from SOMEWHERE, since everything must have a begining and end, the IMPOSSIBILITY of this engine existing caused an instability in the very fabric of the space time continuum, most noticably in the vacinity of Middlesex, Virginia, where the story takes place. From this point on everything that occurs, does so in a TANGENT UNIVERSE. Eventually, according to THE PHILOSPHY OF TIME, this would lead to the formation of a black hole, or a wormhole, which would collapse in upon itself destroying everything.
Now, if Donnie had died in the being of the movie everthing would have continued on like "normal" until the wormhole consumed everything.
HOWEVER, some higher power, be it GOD or whatever, saw this eventuallity and decided to intervene. They awoke Donnie from his slumber so they could use him to put things right.
WHY DONNIE YOU ASK?
Because, quite frankly, Donnie was expendable. He was going to die ethier way, so at least this way, it would not be an empty death.
Donnie purpose was to give this Jet Engine which appeared out of nowwhere, which could be tied to no plane that might have crashed, a reason for existing.
So Donnie, with the abilities granted to him by this HIGHER POWER was able to send sheer the jet engine from plane that his mother was on(that had been maneuvered into position by this higher power), and send it back thru the wormhole to crash into his bedroom back in the Primary Universe.
Now, thanks to Donnie, the Jet Engine had a reason for being, it CAME FROM SOMEWHERE, if even only from a Tangent Universe that no longer existed. Because once the paradox of the engines existence had been resolved, the Tangent Universe dissapeared and the Primary Universe continued on like it always had.
Now, since the Tangent Universe had been eradicated, all but a few lingering memories(or dreams) remained of what had occured(alluded to during the MAD WORLD montage).
So with the knowledge of the Tangent Universe gone, Donnie didnt know what was going to crash thru his bedroom roof, and he was killed.
But one can safely assumed that the Donnie that existed in the Tangent Universe knew what his fate would be, and sacrificed himself for his friends, for his love Gretchen, for this family, for the Universe.
And that is in essence, why he is a HERO and why this MOVE ROCKS!!!!

[Bigboy]

PLEASE do not double post. Any multiposting will be seen as spamming and is not welcomed.
Post it ONCE and we will see it.

As for your post:

most of this is pretty much the accepted theory, so dont be surprised if you get some replies telling you to search before posting.

Your explenation of the engines purpose doesn't sit well for me though. If an object has no logical origin, simply moving it won't suddenly bestow it with one.
For example; if a book suddenly popped into existence in my living room, and I move it into my kitchen, it does not mean that the book 'came from' my living room - it still appeared out of nowhere no matter how many times you move it.

[*eyes*]

[glow=red,2,300]im sorry but i have to agree with christopher the jet is from the future this is easy to see because time travel is one of the main themes in the movie and it shows the plane falling apart re-watch it think for yourself dont just research and again just think for yourself im sorry if this seems rude but your comments seem rather stupid because all you are saying is that the engine is not from the future and that we should research it yet you do not imply on where this original engine may have come from where as christopher makes sense because (im sorry if i have misunderstood or simplified your response for myself to much chris) but you see the plane shake and donnies mother grab onto samantha on the plane then you see the engine torn off the plane and fall into the black hole and then the hole appear above donnies bedroom again as donnie finally chooses to go bak and not leave his room you can see everything played again quickly in reverse im sorry i really cant think of much else to say your comments on this flabergast me and make me laugh at you because you keep repeating yourself when really i think your wrong very wrong but everyone has their own opinions right? ;D[/glow]

[gretchen]

you can think that if you like.

if you appeal to the time travel theory.

however, most of us here believe in the alternate universe theory, which is supported by the POTT.

if you did "research" it, you would find that out.

don't be a jerk.

also, if you actually READ christopher's post, you would see that NOWHERE does he say the engine is from the future.

[*eyes*]

i did read it and im sorry if i misread or misinterpretted and im not being a jerk im stating my opinion of it and if iwa s being a jerk that wouldnt have been worded teh way it was it wouldve have sum form of swearing and a lot more stupidity adn less thought put into it i wouldve just said sumin to make myself look a lot dumber than you probably think i am

[ProvidencePortal]

slightlywhacked said:

if iwa s being a jerk that wouldnt have been worded teh way it was

So, you're saying if you were being a jerk you wouldn't have included such niceities as "your comments seem rather stupid" and "your comments make me laugh at you"?

Please. Your post was wholly inappropriate and, frankly, one of the dumber, more dimwitted posts I've seen online.

You owe an apology to everyone in this thread. Here's to hoping you write it, and that you mature light years between now and the next time you say something here.

[*eyes*]

if it is an apology you would like then an apology you recieve i am sorry if i have offended or annoyed any one with my comments but i really dont think i was being a jerk, stupid maybe, but not a jerk and as for your remark about my maturity care to remember being 16 for me? now with that in mind, am i acting immature or correct for my age? i have been told that i am mature for my age (when i wish to be) whether that is reflected in my coments or not i could care less but i also know that i was not speaking completely out of line and i was being honest bluntly honest i was speaking my mind, my opinion is that not what these things are for? but whatever think what you like of me meanwhile i will stop posting on in thread and i shall await any future meetings we may have *courtseys* au revoir mature enough for you yet?

[ProvidencePortal]

slightlywhacked said:

mature enough for you yet?

Ah, sweet irony. Yes, slighlytwhacked. By typing "mature enough for you yet?," you have proved just how grown up you are. Nicely done.

[*eyes*]

ahh sarcasm ur sarcasm how wonderful but i was actually askin the question not trying to make ne sort of statement

[ProvidencePortal]

I answered your question. Are you having as much trouble reading as you appear to have typing?

[*eyes*]

actually i do have trouble reading my brother broke my glasses im waiting for the repair hence my apologies every couple posts and y i actually did apologize earlier today and my typing sucks ass becasue i really dont care about it if it works it works if not then it doesnt if you have trouble with it by all means message me or e-mail me or something i dont no