Where does the first jet engine come from?

[Drew]

This might sound dumb but how did the first jet engine fall through? And doesn't frank already have to be dead to come back in time to tell Donnie about the engine? For instance, if Donnie didn't move from his bed the night Frank told him too, than Donnie would've died. But in order for Frank to have done that, Donnie would've had to live past that night to kill Frank so that Frank could go back in time to tell Donnie...make sense?
Isn't that a paradox? Donnie should've died that night, but Frank saved him. This was allowed only because in the future Donnie kills Frank, but without Frank's intercession, Donnie would've died and he would not have been able to kill Frank.

[crackur]

you need to read more posts before you post similar questions that have been address not to be rude or anything


first engine was from the future..........

go look about the 4th d, TU and PU

lot of reading

[irreversal]

the whole movie before the part where donnie dies is where the engine came from...

donnie didnt die the first time because he left his room to see frank, the jet engine hit, and he wasnt there. the result of this was that donnie (still alive) burns down cunninghams house, and they find the kiddy porn dungeon... then that one crazy bitch wants to get him out of jail cause she thinks hes innocent, then his mom has to go....
if donnie had died, he wouldnt have burned down the house, the crazy bitch wouldnt have tried to get him out, and donnies mom wouldnt have been on the plane... im not sure why it had to be her plane, but im sure it was something to do with her relationship with him or something

after typing all of this, i noticed that i dont think i answered your question, but im putting it anyways cause i dont to erase it ::)lol

[irreversal]

and about the frank being dead part.... if frank was dead then how would he go back in time?

im confused, lol... im about to watch it again now just because your question confused the shit out of me

but is that why frank had a messed up eye in the theater, didnt donnie shoot him in the eye?
god, thank you for confusing me so much that i cant think straight, back to the movie

[danni]

I got the Donnie Darko book and it explains alot.
Its something about the Manipulated dead (Frank) trying to contact the Manipulated living (Donnie) it does explain alot, these pages are what i thought i understood from the Roberta Sparrow book, but i'm sure somebody will prove me wrong

[h4m]

indeed i have to prove you wrong.. donnie is not a manipulated living. he is the living receiver.. the manipulated living and dead are trying to save themselves and the primary universe from destruction, as noted in The Philosophy of Time Travel. ooh italics

[sorcha]

I used to think the jet engine fell from the plane Donnie's mother and sister were boarding on thier way back from the Sparkle Motion competition, hence the jet engine was from the future. But then that's totally illogical, it doesn't explain the "second time" it fell.

[h4m]

the second time it fell it was because donnie sent it back to the PU. if he hadnt all life on earth would have been destroyed.. and technically it only fell once.. at the smae exact time everytime.. but the only reason donnie survived the first time was because a tangent universe had came into being..

[jen]

you have to read the philosophy of time travel to understand it. the engine fell off the plane in the future, and donnie was the living receiver, so he had to make sure that it ended up in the same place so that it would go back to the primary universe. but in the future, before the engine fell, frank and gretchen were already dead, so they were both manipulated dead. that's why the second time it fell, and donnie didnt move, gretchen said she didnt know him. and when frank woke up from the noise he touched his eye because he had a dream that he got shot.

[colin]

h4m said:

the second time it fell it was because donnie sent it back to the PU. if he hadnt all life on earth would have been destroyed.. and technically it only fell once.. at the smae exact time everytime.. but the only reason donnie survived the first time was because a tangent universe had came into being..

But this still dosent explain where the engine comes from in the PU. If the TU is erased then where does the engine come from in the PU when you put everything back together. The engine still comes from nowhere. Im confused.

[daenerys]

well i think it was like this... the engine came from the future and if donnie didn't die he would've met gretchen, she would die, his mother and sister would go to that competition, and they would die too, he would've killed frank. this way (remaining in his room) he died, but none of that stuff happened. it's the way i understood it. if you watch the movie with director's commentary he'll explain the way he imagined it. i for one thought that donnie remained in his room because he wanted to sacrify himself in order to save the others but richard kelly said that donnie traveled through time to that night when engine fell and though that it was all a dream (that's why he was laughing), a nightmare. as for the engine...it deattached from the plane in the future and went through a time portal to fall on donnie's room in the past.

[greedy]

ok heres the low down the engine came from the PU (primary universe) that being the artifact and donni the living reciver created the TU (tanget universe) the engine coming from the primary universe is replaced on the plane in the TU but because it is the srtifact used to create the TU it coexists with it's TU counter part thats why the FAA was scarching there heads

[*eyes*]

i have 2 theories on this one but for one you have to believe in ghosts my first theory is that frank has already broken the time bounderies so just as the bullet was hitting him the instant before he dies he opens a portal and reversing time back ot the beginning to wake donnie to try and make everything better or just to watch the world end again and again because for all we know hes done this before although i doubt it. My second theory is that even after death i believe that your spirit can walk the earth if u run away from 'the light' or that you just need to finish something so i think that even though frank is already dead in the begining he already had the knowledge of how to open portals and travel time so he does which just ends up making things worse for donies condition because as i no from one of my exes that when u hav schitzophrenia of n e kind the voices or halucinations can be of ppl u no and care about or even just sum1 u saw walking by you in the street (or your sisters boyfriend which is who i think frank is) can lead u into a weird warp of occcurances but with dr therman giving donnie placebos he really cant be much worse off than the rest of us now can he?

[*eyes*]

and my computer is fucked im sorry it sent my last post to teh wrong one arent viruses great im so sorry guys

[*eyes*]

the engine come from tho plane sparkle motion is on it makes sense because a portal opens like i does when they on the plane which u see later on and it falls through and the other end just happens to be over his room really did u watch this movie or sleep through it watch it again and pay attention