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Post by elizabeth on Mar 9, 2006 13:51:20 GMT -5
About the shooting of Frank.On one level Donnie kills the real Frank to complete the cycle and create the MD Frank(as Bigboy correctly told me).
If,as I said before, Frank also symbolizes Donnie's dark alter ego and his super powers, killing Frank has also a symbolic meaning.His choice to sacrifice his powerful side for the sake of the people his actions affect.
The "Last Temptation" has a similar storyline.Another what if scenario.What if Jesus used his godly powers to escape from death on the cross,punished his tormentors and lived a life like a real King of kings.
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Post by 1 on Mar 15, 2006 0:29:07 GMT -5
That can't be true because after Donnie's death they still exist sans Donnie or his mind.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 22, 2006 17:24:53 GMT -5
What I mean,is that now days most psychologists agree that our dreams use symbols in order to communicate their message.So if you see in your dream someone you know,the feelings connected to that person is the hidden meaning of the dream.
I didn't mean that these people don't exist for real, just that if the TU is like a dream,all the things Donnie sees is more like his subconscious talking to him than anything else..
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 28, 2006 16:32:30 GMT -5
I am starting to believe that the only time traveling Donnie does,is in his dreams.When he says I have the power to build a time machine,it's about him realizing that the only thing he has to do to go back is...wake up!
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Post by terabyte on Mar 28, 2006 20:04:46 GMT -5
I am starting to believe that the only time traveling Donnie does,is in his dreams.When he says I have the power to build a time machine,it's about him realizing that the only thing he has to do to go back is...wake up! If that were the truth, how would you explain the jet engine falling on his room? |
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 29, 2006 17:13:35 GMT -5
The whole movie is built upon a paradox,terabyte.The jet engine doesn't belong in this world,yet it's here.I have seen many movies and read many books that use this device in order to leave you with a question mark at the end.There is always a memento from a journey to a world that never existed.
I don't know if you've read the classic time travel story"A Yankee of Connecticut in king's Arthur court"?(or something like that.I am not sure about the title in English).It's a textbook example of this..
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Post by dynamite rabbit on Apr 11, 2006 19:14:27 GMT -5
Is it just me or is frank (not the bunny from the future) trying to wake Donnie at the end when he is laughing in his bed? At the start frank beeps his car horn and drives away but at the end he beeps and doesnt drive away. Is he trying to warn him? Does Donnie have to die? Maybe I missed something - I have only seen the director's cut. I heard the car horn but how do we know Frank doesn't drive away at the end? |
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Post by Bigboy on Apr 12, 2006 15:34:26 GMT -5
He definately drives away at the end - how else would we see him in his bedroom a few minutes later?
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Post by tasha on Jul 9, 2006 20:36:14 GMT -5
is frank trying to wake Donnie at the end? frank beeps his car horn ... is he trying to warn him? Does Donnie have to die? Frank's beeping at the end has generated some discussion. It's generally accepted that Frank-the-teenager has some memory of the TU and is beeping to warn Donnie to get out of the way of the falling engine; but there are other opinions, too. juz a theory but could teenage frank subconsciously know that if donnie is asleep he could sleepwalk out of his house and live and then the whole thing could happen again. so is it possible that frank wants to wake him up to prevent this |
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Jul 10, 2006 8:44:46 GMT -5
could teenage frank know that donnie sleepwalk out of his house and live and then the whole thing could happen again That's an interesting take. I think the scene we're talking about happens in the Primary Universe, though -- which means whether or not Donnie is squished by the engine, the rift has been closed and the world is safe. |
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Post by out of the box on Jul 16, 2006 15:46:17 GMT -5
how would beeping a horn alert donnie who is lying in bed...
if frank wanted to warn donnie...
dont you think he would of ran inside the house...
and yelled at the top of his lungs?
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Post by Bigboy on Jul 17, 2006 11:03:32 GMT -5
At that point of the movie, they have just 'returned' from the TU and only remember as you would a dream - he probably just had a feeling of something coming... Or he could have been beeping his GF goodnight  |
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Post by theawesome on Jul 28, 2006 0:08:01 GMT -5
I am almost positive that he was just beeping his girlfriend goodnight because in the beginning of the movie, in the tangent universe, Frank beeps right before the engine hits, when Donnie is not even in the house. And you can see Donnie's sister smile right when he beeps.
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Post by theawesome on Jul 28, 2006 0:16:05 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post but just to clear things up if i didn't explain that well enough. If you watch the movie Frank beeps when he drops Elizabeth off the first time. This is in the tangent universe where no one has had any dreams or feelings about their experience because the experience has not happened yet.
I know that the director said that Frank was subconciously trying to warn Donnie or something like that but I think that he contridicted himself.
It could be that he was trying to warn Donnie and maybe the people who edited Donnie Darko forgot to take the horn out for the scene in the tangent universe. Who knows
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Post by fdsg on Jul 29, 2006 20:17:58 GMT -5
I just thought i would add in...how would frank be home when the engine falls into donnies room(the dream sequence part) feeling his eye when he was beeping outside just seconds before it happend...and wouldnt you have thought he would have stopped when the engine fell in since he was right there driving away...
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