IS IT GOD OR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE?

[ProvidencePortal]

Right -- in the vein of "someone manipulating Donnie," there are all kinds of permutations. Maybe it's human scientists from the future downloading information directly into Donnie's noggin, including visions of "Frank." Maybe it's God, influencing him to fulfill a cycle that proves both providence and free will are holy. Maybe it's aliens playing with humans the way sometimes I pretend to throw something so my dog will run down the hallway looking for it.

Could be lots of things. What I'm interested in is trying to tie evidence to the theories. Any specific things in the movie that suggest alien intervention to you, Snake?

[Snake]

well there is the sky opening up - alien technology - possibility.
donnie being so intelligent - alien powers?

I dont even know how i cmae up with this theory lol ill watch it again and post any ideas

[thepretender]

oooooh...tough question. Mostly because I think it depends on who is watching the movie and what their personal beliefs are.
There was so much ambiguity that I think people have the ability to work their own belief system into it.
If you are like me who still has many questions about "The Meaning of Life" but who doesn't believe that aliens have yet made any contact with us and may never do so, you might think that Frank the Bunny was Franks 'angel form' coming down to show Donnie what his life would have been like if he had lived.
Donnie still had the free will to make a choice so I don't think that fate or destiny has anything to do with it. I know that the way I feel about this has a lot to do with my belief system which is still under construction but based on a strong Catholic upbringing and having watched It's a Wonderful Life at least once a year for the last 25 years or so.
I also believe that there was a message in it that tells people to beware of false prophets.
The De Ja Vu effect that many of the characters had the next morning really affected me.
Why do we have all have 'de ja vu' moments?

[Bigboy]

One theory is that our subconcious processes and stores something before our concious minds process it.
Say you see an orange cat on a blue wall, before you conciously have time to register the scene, your subconcious has already absorbed it and stored it as memory, so you think to your self - "I've seen that cat, sitting that way on thatwall before".







or it could be 'cause the Matrix just changed ;D

[thepretender]

BigBoy,
That theory does make sense!!
The mind is an amazing thing! Have you seen all of the reports on false memory syndrome?
Just goes to show we can never quite totally trust our minds anyway.

[pedro2112guest]

madridarko said:

But I guess my largest concern is not wether it's scientist or god(s). What bothers me the most is the fact that Kelly all of a suddenly decided to changed his mind about the background of the movie and decided to make it more Future scientist oriented.
This can be deduced by the fact that he removed all or most of the scenes containing some type of religious dialouge in the DC. It just seems awkward to have this sudden change.

Yes I know most of the time change is beneficial, and this new version does allow wider interpretation about the movie, but I tend to have a bias interpretation in this subject.

I've only seen the DC.. what language did Kelly cut from the theatrical release?

[God haha what a lie]

Of [glow=red,2,300]course its not "god" because doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that god chooses when we die? if so then why does god help Donnie to save there lives when"god" controls wheither they live or die?

[Bigboy]

Of course its not "god" because doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that god chooses when we die? if so then why does god help Donnie to save there lives when"god" controls wheither they live or die?

I don't go for the God angle either - but that really isnt a great argument:

- Is it necessarilyy the God presented to us by the Bible?

- The Bibe also says "God works in mysterious ways" - who is to say that Donnie isn't the WAY He chose to do things. Millions of people die from disease and accidents each year; if God decides that a bus driver looses concentration and runs down a kid, or that one man dies beacause another shoots him; how are these "human vehicles" different to using Donnie to perform His Will?

[oghuz]

neither i think. it is just fate, look here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

this movie just says we don't have a free will, just playing our roles