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Post by Anger prisoner on Mar 27, 2005 17:03:56 GMT -5
I look at the original release as a version that was cut all to hell because they did not know how to market it to the public at an Eighth grade education level. So they chopped it down to make it shorter in order to keep the frustration level down. No more significant than that.
I'm sure Richard had the same Idea all along but was finally able to get some extra funds, time and creative control to make the movie he originally planned.
I enjoy both versions but tend to lean towards the newer. Its a little more straight forward but I still believe this movie is intentionally left open to interpretation on a lot of key points.
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Post by Madridarko on Mar 28, 2005 10:32:22 GMT -5
It's not exactly that they didnt' know how to advertise and promote the original DVD... it was more so done because of lack of funds... they were on an extremly limited budget (most or all of the actors were doing this volunterraly)... and once money started flowing... well they decided to come out with the Director's Cut which is probably a bit more like Kelly would have liked the movie to come out origanally.
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Post by swimmajor on Mar 28, 2005 11:47:02 GMT -5
see, this is why im agnostic. no arguements, no questions, no answers. just live and let live, for while i dont believe in a set "GOD", i do believe in the golden rule. but as it pertains to DD, i do believe there is something that is manipulating these events. should it really matter if it is either future scientist or god? or should we just take blind faith and a little understanding under our wings and know that there is something, and thats all that can be said.
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Post by Anger prisoner on Mar 28, 2005 11:56:00 GMT -5
In an around about way you basically made the same point I did Madrid.
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Mar 28, 2005 13:23:58 GMT -5
should it really matter if it is either future scientist or god? or should we just take blind faith and a little understanding under our wings and know that there is something, and thats all that can be said. In a philosophic sense, I don't know -- maybe there is a valuable perspective in not wondering whether future scientists or God is responsible for what's happening around you. In the sense that we are interpreting/dissecting/unpacking Donnie Darko, I certainly think it matters ... at least, as much as understanding anything about what happens in the movie does. |
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Post by Madridarko on Mar 28, 2005 15:42:38 GMT -5
After seeing DC with Kelly's commentary I made certain observance's.. one dealing with his belief of machine/scientist v.s. what I believe is divine intervention so I find it rather appropriete to post my idea in this thread....
What if perhaps instead of thinking that only one (future scientist or god) is responsible, what if both of them take a significant part of this movie??
What I am trieng to say is what if the scientist of the future somehow succeded in the manufacturing of a time portal and then sent a jet engine through it.(or perhaps it was accidental that it was a jet engine.. maybe the jet engine somehow went into the time portal that they had created becuse the airplane flew to close to it?)
So on and so forth and because of laws of nature... the things described in the PoTT develope because of the time-dimensional corruptancy and then... Frank BR emerges..... He not only is part of these laws of nature but the messenger of God.. And the rest is what happens in the movie, Donnie must sacrifice himself in order to ensure the safty of the universe and he finds god along the way and so on and so forth...
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Post by Anger prisoner on Mar 28, 2005 21:44:13 GMT -5
Makes as much since as anything else I've heard, Madrid. And even put simply...Which I at least appreciate.  |
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Post by Madridarko on Mar 30, 2005 22:26:40 GMT -5
Thank you.. I wanted to descibe a more elaborate and detailed description of my theory... but I found myself getting bunggled up in my own ideas and words... so I thought that the esiest form to clearly post my idea was to give a simple and short outline...
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Post by knightrider on May 16, 2005 13:44:02 GMT -5
The way I interpreted the whole thing was that there was a "glitch", a ripple in the space time continuim that sent the plane engine from the future into the past. Since this was a glitch, it wasn't supposed to happen. It created an alternate universe: the tangent universe. Donnie's goal was to send a plane engine back in time, thus creating a reason for the plane engine to appear in the first place, fixing the glitch. If the glitch wasn't fixed, it would have created a black hole in the original (primary) universe.
Wether or not Donnie is being manipulated by god or future scientists is up to personal interpretation. According to the PoTT, the manipulated dead can travel back in time via a Fourth Dimensional Construct. This was made out of water. Notice how when Donnie is in the bathroom trying to touch and stab Frank, water ripples emit from where Donnie strikes this Construct. One could view this as the future scientists' vessel for time travel. It could also be a divine wall stopping him from touching Frank. Or it could be a mental barrier, and Frank is all in his head. Wether it is a god or future scientists manipulating Donnie's head is also open for debate.
The DC does seem to hint at some sort of involvement of future scientists. The PoTT is written in a way that suggests human involvement. The original cut, which lacks the excerpts from the PoTT, seems to be hinting at divine intervention. Either way, there are a million ways to interpret each version.
Sorry if this is a little wordy or hard to understand, it's my first post on here.
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Post by Madridarko on May 17, 2005 22:05:42 GMT -5
Youre interpretation was perfectly understandable and a normal length, don't worry.
But I guess my largest concern is not wether it's scientist or god(s). What bothers me the most is the fact that Kelly all of a suddenly decided to changed his mind about the background of the movie and decided to make it more Future scientist oriented.
This can be deduced by the fact that he removed all or most of the scenes containing some type of religious dialouge in the DC. It just seems awkward to have this sudden change.
Yes I know most of the time change is beneficial, and this new version does allow wider interpretation about the movie, but I tend to have a bias interpretation in this subject.
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Post by Snake on Jun 25, 2005 13:43:31 GMT -5
How do you know its people - what if its aliens. What if there was a race of giant bunnies (joke)
Who says the higher power has to be either of the two. how do we know that donnies abilities are not just gifts from aliens.
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Post by Bigboy on Jun 25, 2005 13:50:53 GMT -5
Well I'd lump aliens in with scientists: The term 'future scientists' doesn't specify 'human'... |
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Post by Snake on Jun 25, 2005 14:22:52 GMT -5
good point but what if they aren't scientists what if its more natural the cause of these abilities and the aliens can manipulate time and space telepathically and no science is needed lol then they are just aliens |
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Post by Bigboy on Jun 25, 2005 16:21:06 GMT -5
could be...
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Post by Snake on Jun 26, 2005 8:23:44 GMT -5
what if it was aliens - then there is the idea that it might have just been a game. what if they saw the future and used an image of frank to manipulate donnie.
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