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Post by parmanda on Nov 16, 2003 12:07:36 GMT -5
[glow=beige,2,300] Ok so heres an idea about forecasting and a couple of questions.
Mrs. Farmer at the emergency PTA meeting talks about "pornography" being taught in the school, through Graham Greene's "The Destructors." Ironically enough, later on in the movie, Jim Cunningham is caught in the middle of a kiddy porn scandal, and Mrs. Farmer is teaching his books and tapes about Fear and Love.
Cherita - I feel that she is the symbol of "being alone" in the movie. When Donnie tells her later on, that he promises everything will get better, he somehow knows that after he dies, things will change for her, since everyone had some sort of residue from what had happened. And she was smiling at the end.
How was the wormhole created in the first place? This meant that Frank had to come before the actual jet engine hit his room... How did he get there? And why did Frank get Donnie out of the house, when in the end hes just trying to put him back there in order for the jet to kill him? [/glow]
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Post by Frank on Nov 16, 2003 14:25:26 GMT -5
Frank got to Donnie's room before the jet hit because when you die you have the ability to time travel. Donnie also created the wormhole. He had been chosen but he didn't know it. Frank was manipulating donnie for the first half of the movie but then donnie disscovered he had 4th dimentional powers.
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Post by MrNobody on Nov 19, 2003 11:33:16 GMT -5
About the pron, this points out another major theme in the movie. Irony. It is shown out all through the movie in many different areas.
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Post by kiran on Jan 16, 2004 11:18:52 GMT -5
[glow=beige,2,300] And why did Frank get Donnie out of the house, when in the end hes just trying to put him back there in order for the jet to kill him? [/glow] so donnie cant kill frank think about it
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Post by blondish on Feb 3, 2004 6:05:41 GMT -5
the reason that frank comes back is because it was fate, it was meant to happen, it had already happened, thats why everything happened the way it did!! some people believe that the road ahead of us is mapped out!! and for people who say whats the point i put to that remember its a film, its just a clever storyline!! whether it opens your eyes is up to you!!
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Post by wfalcon76 on Mar 27, 2004 22:30:26 GMT -5
Love and Fear are a theme in this movie.
Although Donny dismisses the idea that life can be simplified to only Love and Fear: He himself associates with each character in one of these two ways.
Most of the time it's extremely polarized (i.e., twice in the movie a knife is held against his throat) and other times it's more subtle (the love he shows towards the Chinese girl).
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Post by Sandra on Apr 14, 2004 22:42:14 GMT -5
That's an interesting idea about the love and fear. Aside from a few relationships (Sam, Elizabeth, etc.) it does work. How about Jim Cunningham then? Proponent of love but by the end of the movie we see him filled with insecurity and fear, quivering in his bed. Mrs. Farmer, another supporter of "love" who holds the other dance troupe mothers in fear.
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Post by tina on Apr 15, 2004 2:41:12 GMT -5
It seems to me, that for Frank to have travelled back in time to wake Donnie, that something had to have already kept the engine from killing him. Think about it, if Donnie had died the first time around. Frank would be alive, none of it would have transpired. I think Frank came back to give Donnie the choice, in light of future events. Donnie just happened to posses the ability to comprehend and utilize time travel, unlike the mjority of humans. Overall, I think the movie was meant to raise more questions than answers.
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Post by xmanxwithxaxgunx on Apr 17, 2004 17:10:11 GMT -5
[glow=brown,2,300]TEXT[/glow]the theme of the movie is god, and the question of whether he exists. donnie realizes that if god does indeed exist, no one truly dies alone, and that death isnt the worst thing that can happen.......hes laughing before he dies.
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Post by fancykangaroo on May 29, 2004 22:19:09 GMT -5
[glow=brown,2,300]TEXT[/glow]the theme of the movie is god, and the question of whether he exists. donnie realizes that if god does indeed exist, no one truly dies alone, and that death isnt the worst thing that can happen.......hes laughing before he dies. Okay, what I don't understand is, if in the end, no one dies alone, then why did Roberta Sparrow say this to Donnie? Multiple answers please.
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Post by MoonageDaydream on Jul 18, 2004 16:32:28 GMT -5
Good question. Unfortunately I don't have an answer. Don't you just hate me?
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Jul 18, 2004 17:52:07 GMT -5
Okay, what I don't understand is, if in the end, no one dies alone, then why did Roberta Sparrow say this to Donnie? Multiple answers please. Perhpas thats why she failed in the mission where donnie succeded
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Post by MoonageDaydream on Jul 18, 2004 18:23:13 GMT -5
I don't think that she neccessarily failed. It think it makes sense that her purpose was to write the book, to inform Donnie and anyone else that it might happen to what to expect. Just as Donnie's purpose was to die for others, that was hers. Does that make sense?
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Jul 18, 2004 18:41:22 GMT -5
I don't think that she neccessarily failed. It think it makes sense that her purpose was to write the book, to inform Donnie and anyone else that it might happen to what to expect. Just as Donnie's purpose was to die for others, that was hers. Does that make sense? It makes sense but it makes answering the question why she told donnie what she did a bit harder.....maybe it was just to lead him down his path
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Post by darkos_light on Jul 19, 2004 0:44:00 GMT -5
Fuck. I just typed some super long post and I forgot to enter a ID/name, so I lost it all.
Here is a shorthand of whatever I most frustratingly remember::
in the director/jake commentary, oen of them comments frank's honking at the end was trying to wake jake up, to get up to get up and get out of his room. could he really have left his room? why didnt' he? how did that jet engine still fall into his room if the future had been changed and that plane never went down? (actually that last Q i sorta get already, becuz I think it's the two universe thing that answers that).
which is most of the movie played in, the tangent uni or the parallel uni? i get so mixed up.
and sparrow can't see into the future/past/whatever, so how does she know DD is gonna send her a letter? (and therefore pace back and forth)
and since SHE was the only reason gretchen dies (frank has to swerve around her, therefore hitting gretchen), and therefore frank, wasn't sparrow basically the reason frank and gretchen die BECAUSE she was waiting for DD's letter? this doesn't make sense becuz that means DD's letter, part of his trying to understand this weird going-on, caused what he would be trying to undo.
emily
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