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Post by screamatorium on Jan 5, 2005 0:29:26 GMT -5
My completely unsubstantiated theory on why Roberta Sparrow is crazy:
Roberta Sparrow receives a letter in the mail one day... a letter from herself warning her of some terrible accident. When the events come true, and she does avoid a tradgedy, she realises that at some point she has figured out time travel. Terrified that another tradgedy will happen, she tells herself if anything bad ever happens to her, she'll send herself another letter to warn herself what to avoid. So now the rest of her life is spent in isolation and fear that any of her actions may ultimately lead to her doom. So the only thing she can do, is check her mailbox everyday waiting for that letter.
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Post by kick on Jan 6, 2005 14:39:03 GMT -5
I thought the letter was from Donnie not herself.
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Post by randomhero on Jan 9, 2005 4:52:43 GMT -5
does anyone know if the part where Donnie tells gretchen that he burned down an empty house wen he was younger have anything to do with the movie?
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Post by josh on Jan 11, 2005 1:36:58 GMT -5
It does set up an explaination for why Donnie is seing Dr. Thurman, providing opportunities for Donnie to explain his thoughts and feelings to a third party (us included).
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Post by rudiger321 on Jan 18, 2005 0:00:33 GMT -5
Im not sure if this has already been posted as i didnt read all of them,
But, the guy in the red jumpsuit is the "henchmen" for the leading HAA guy. in the first HAA scene where they introduse themselves to Rose, Red Suit is standing behind the main HAA guy, he is wearing a black suit and the same dark glasses he wears. He is sent by the HAA to follow donnie. that is mentioned on the commentary on the original dvd release.
on the directors cut commentary they mention it is set in '88 cause richard kelly only knows what it was like to be a teen in 88 not today. that is one of the first things they talk about.
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Post by John on Jan 20, 2005 15:24:46 GMT -5
I just joined this board so I haven't read all 26 pages yet but I just want to say now something that has probably already been said 936.4007 times in this thread already, The fat guy is the F.A.A. guy, he is watching Donnie because the F.A.A. is really confused about the whole jet engine thing, they can't figure it out so they assign the fat guy to keep an eye on Donnie (and probably his whole family) to find anything out he can. And this is according to Richard Kelly. I know you can have your own interpretation though...but that's not who he is. Donnie is asleep on the mountain in the first scene because he sleep walks.
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Post by gretchen on Jan 20, 2005 18:22:40 GMT -5
yes, we have established that
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Post by Madridarko on Jan 20, 2005 20:05:02 GMT -5
does anyone know if the part where Donnie tells gretchen that he burned down an empty house wen he was younger have anything to do with the movie? Yes, I belive it was when he was walking with Gretchen towards home, after school has been cancelled (because of the flooding) and Gretchen was talking about her dad incident and Donnie does that "hey I have emotional problems too" scene.
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Post by Dace on Jan 22, 2005 13:05:56 GMT -5
My Theory, prob wrong lol hes smiling cos his dreaming bout f*cking girls cos in that scene with the doctor he says he dreams bout girls and stuff so is that why hes smiling and hes prob smiling at the beginning cos his just woken up and hes been dreaming bout lol, so franks a ghost from the future come back to help get donnie to notice the clues, that lead him to that night where he kills frank so that frank can come back and make the prophecy to donnie at the beginning of the movie, so that the sky does actually open and donnie can travel back in time and let the tangent universe be destroyed since he doesnt want any of the pain to happen, and he decides to die since he doesnt wanna become like grandma death roberta sparrow???, and i tihnk franks helping him cos if he destroys the tangent universe and donnie dies then frank will live and not remember a thing except slight images??
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Post by Dace on Jan 22, 2005 13:47:06 GMT -5
Oke After checking that book thing ruinedeye.com/cd/time1.htmheres my new theory. time became corrupted since the jet engine got throught he wormhole and got 28 days into the past, so dead frank is trying to save the world, hes using donnie as a tool to do this. the jet engine goes through a wormhole and makes the tangent, so donnie has to get it back before the universe turns into a black hole upon its self, so fate aspires to get donnie to get the jet engine back. donnie is blessed with the powers and becomes the living reciever, whilst everyone else becomes manipulated by fate to correct the universe even though they dont know, donnies follows the clues and gets to that house on that night with the party, and he uses his power to make a wormhole using the water and plane as a craft, the engine is sent back and the tangent universe reverses back upon itself and leaves donnie in bed, now donnie knows hes saved everyone but instead of getting out of bed he stays so he doesnt grow old and die alone, donnie stays and dies to the engine, whilst everyone is haunted by the tangent thinking it was all a dream. thats my conclusion
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Post by Madridarko on Jan 22, 2005 16:51:39 GMT -5
so dead frank is trying to save the world, hes using donnie as a tool to do this.thats my conclusion I really don't think that it was Manipulated Dead Frank's burden to save the world, but I think it was more of a Donnie burder (that's why he is the Living Reicver) and Frank is there to set up the Endurance Trap and kinda help donnie in the proccess to understand the reason he is doing this and that he does not have to die alone and that god loves him. I think in a way, it sounds horrible, but Frank was teaching Donnie to accept death as a natural process, or not the actuall death part, but more as in the dieing alone, that way he would see he was not dying alone. I mean I don't think the whole movie was about that, but it might have been a slight part of it.
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Post by gretchen on Jan 22, 2005 17:38:22 GMT -5
hey madrid, there is such thing as a modify button.
users on other forums get flamed for double posting, you know.
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Post by Madridarko on Jan 22, 2005 21:19:19 GMT -5
Is that better to your appeal Gretch?
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Post by gretchen on Jan 22, 2005 21:24:03 GMT -5
yes
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Post by x on Feb 4, 2005 8:11:49 GMT -5
well, if the donnie is waking up and smiling. memory and remembering something that is fading away quickly, plus we hear the thunderlike sound we have with the wormhole at the end just as the film starts too. that has been puzzling me too. but, I dont see donnie coming from the present to the year 1988. many flaws to that theory, like: unlike frank the bunny form the future, which only donnie sees, gretchen can see the fat guy.
here is what I believe in: First time watching it, I thought the events would occur in PU - TU (engine crash) - PU (donnie dies)
Now, the creation of the TU occurs because of the corruption of the time consistency of the PU, this indicated by the artifact of the jet engine coming of the future.
The worm whole/portal in the end allows Donnie of the TU to send the artifact back in time to the correct the inconsistency therefore the TU will not have ever existed, other then in faint memories we see in the MadWorld sequence.
But, why do we hear the sound at the start of the movie where donnie is waking up next to his bike at the very spot he was at when the TU ended. Is this, Donnie waking up next to his bike, happening in the TU already, he is hearing an "echo" of the future, the worm-hole that will be at this spot 28 days later? And like the people in the end having a faint memory of what will come? Or is he in the PU and just laughing about the fact he was "sleepbiking"?
I go with that the film starts in the TU and the only part actually showing the PU is the end where we see donnie laugh and awaiting his death and I think this time he is awaiting it, unlike the others only having a faint memory having a clear knowledge of the TU events that never will happen now.
He is laughing because he is remembering him as a super-hero in the TU having knowledge now of a Gods Path and therefore existence of God and fate not dying alone, he loves Gretchen is loved by her and Cherita saving everything that exists to be sucked up by singularity created by the collapsing of the TU
greetings, Jester
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