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Post by Artifact Fire on Jun 28, 2004 18:07:50 GMT -5
I...kinda understand what hapens, i know he did, and i love the movie..but how exactly did he go bck in time by being on the cliff/hill with Gretchen?
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Post by sarah on Jun 30, 2004 8:58:04 GMT -5
The film is a bit confusing and definately needs to be watched a couple of times before you begin to understand what's going on!! But at the end of the day, I think it's just one of those films that's made to confuse - no one will ever know just what happens...I don't think it's meant to be looked into too deeply, but at the same time you just can't help it!!
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Post by guest on Jul 22, 2004 12:24:13 GMT -5
hey it can be interpreted several ways but i don't think jonnie traveled back in time, it was the jet engine that changed things, and the fact that frank did not awake him this time to escape is because now frank knows it was donnie that shot him, i don't know thats my take on things
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Post by darkos_light on Jul 22, 2004 17:14:52 GMT -5
Donnie didn't go back in time by being on the cliff. On the cliff, he realized the world was going to end. THEN, he goes back home and lays down in bed - and dies as the jet engine crashes into his bed. The tangent universe has collapses, it no longer exists --- everything that happened in this movie from Donnie going out on the golf course onwards, happened in the tangent universe. Kelly put it, it's like a duplicate of each chararacter lives in this tangent universe, all manipulating Donnie to do the right thing, basically, to sacrifice himself so the world would not end. Read this for more information on DD: ruinedeye.com/cd/time1.htm (This is the Philosophy of Time Travel book).
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Post by GARGAMEL on Jul 22, 2004 17:41:00 GMT -5
Frank DID try to wake up donnie by honking the horn. It's the first time through that frank DID NOT honk. Frank is so not mad at donnie for shoting his tangent doppelganger. that's what Frank and God (the univerese, whatever) wanted.
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Post by Teilhard de Chardin on Jul 22, 2004 18:04:02 GMT -5
Frank honked both times, he was honking at Elizabeth regardless, this happened in the primary and tangent universes. OK so it was kind of a signal to Donnie but it did happen twice. The second time, Donnie makes a conscious decision to not get out of bed, despite knowing the consequences, in essence, this is the ultimate act of sacrifice - he knows what he would be leaving behind and the events which followed weeks after, hey, he lived those weeks for 28 days and learned a great deal. The tangent universe also spelt out a few home-truths to the people concerned i.e Kitty, Jim and Cherita, who in their dreams following the tangents' collapse, came to realise their positions in society and their ultimate strengths or weaknesses.
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Post by reignman on Jul 23, 2004 1:11:15 GMT -5
I...kinda understand what hapens, i know he did, and i love the movie..but how exactly did he go bck in time by being on the cliff/hill with Gretchen? He didn't. The tangent universe was destroyed. However, Donnie dreamed about it in the primary universe. Knowing that the tangent universe plane engine was on the way to kill him, he decided to die to save Gretchen and Frank from dieing.
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Post by tangentboy on Jul 31, 2004 14:16:27 GMT -5
I...kinda understand what hapens, i know he did, and i love the movie..but how exactly did he go bck in time by being on the cliff/hill with Gretchen? DONNIE IS "LIVING RECIVER" & AS SUCH HE HAS LOTS OF SUPER POWERS (SEE POTT) SOMEHOW INSIDE HIS HEAD HE MAKES THE PORTAL HAPPEN AND SENDS HIS MOM'S PLANE IN THERE AND THEN MAKES SURE THE ENGINE FALLS THROUGH THE WORMHOLE (WHATEVER IT IS) AND THEN SENDS THE WHOLE UNIVERSE BACK ALMOST 29 DAYS SO THE TANGENT UNIVERSE NEVER HAPPENS TEXT
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Post by GARG and friends on Jul 31, 2004 14:24:26 GMT -5
Frank DID try to wake up donnie by honking the horn. It's the first time through that frank DID NOT honk. Frank is so not mad at donnie for shoting his tangent doppelganger. that's what Frank and God (the univerese, whatever) wanted. I'M SO CONFUSED ABOUT THAT DAMN HORN HONK. IN THE DIRECTORS CUT FRANK HONKS THE HORN BOTH TIMES. IN THE ORIGINAL I'M JUST NOT SURE ANYMORE (I THOUGHT I KNEW) I'M STARTING TO THINK DONNIE REALLY DID have to die I NEVER USED TO THINK THAT =GRAGAMEL=
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Post by reignman on Aug 1, 2004 2:59:33 GMT -5
"how exactly did he go bck in time by being on the cliff/hill with Gretchen?"
POTT:dreams
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Post by Jabmahn of de north on Aug 6, 2004 2:43:10 GMT -5
OK, there was trouble with mom and sparkle motions plane. their engine falls off and goes through the worm hole that forms below it in the storm (where Donnie happens to be watching at the end with Gretchen’s body) to correct what frank had prevented in the beginning when he got Donnie out bed the night the engine falls though his room (which happens to be right below the other end of the worm hole). the reason they hafta sign forms saying they wont talk is cause the engine matched that of an engine that exist on a plane that has trouble 28 days 6 hours 12 minutes and however many seconds later (the gov. knew about the worm hole and try to cover it up) Frank screwed up gods plan for Donnie he wasn’t supposed to live after the engine falls through his room and Gretchen isn’t supposed to die like that. The worm hole is god fixing the screw-up. frank did this cause he is another personality in Donnie’s screwed up schizophrenic brain that’s on a higher lever of consciousness and wants Donnie to experience love with Gretchen, let loose a great teacher from a job that is stifling her emotions, expose a child molester and try to forcibly place the life line of love up the ladies anus. The reason frank was a giant bunny with a hole in his eye is because "The maker is the undoer." Frank started the time loop by waking Donnie up. Frank, his sister’s boyfriend who destroyed everything Donnie cared about in the end, when he killed Gretchen, and Donnie shot ending the good tomes he was having on his borrowed time. Frank, I think am not as sure about as I am the rest of the stuff, is portrayed as the devil and the spheres of whatever coming out the chests are gods will, that’s why they brought Donnie to the instrument of franks death. SO no he didn’t travel through time at all only the planes engine did. I’ve seen this movie and fight club also a brain-screw of a movie so many times I’ve lost total count but man I never get sick of em SO, till next time peace, love, and unity to you all, OUT TEXT
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Post by Jabmahn of the north on Aug 6, 2004 2:47:39 GMT -5
but the universe did happen note the end when Gretchen and Donnies mom lock eyes and nod as if they recognized each other (ever get dejavue?) i aint french so dont mind the spellin please
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Post by Jabmahn of de north on Aug 6, 2004 2:50:28 GMT -5
nice never saw that side before, frank decided to wake Donnie but then again frank is just one of donnies personalities remember schisto
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Post by GARGAMEL on Aug 6, 2004 15:20:58 GMT -5
nice never saw that side before, frank decided to wake Donnie but then again frank is just one of donnies personalities remember schisto I don't think Donnie is crazy. Did you see the directors cut yet?
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Post by Jabmahn of de north on Aug 7, 2004 4:05:38 GMT -5
I don't think Donnie is crazy. Did you see the directors cut yet? __-No i did not see it, i would love to if the chance arrives somtime. but does it explain the fact that in the reality shown donnie is clearly thought to be insane by his family and doctor burns down (mulitple) buildings and the such
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