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Post by Bigboy on May 6, 2005 13:46:54 GMT -5
Unless as a final irony, God actually turns out to be all forgiving - leaving the devil alone for eternity in Hell, with no prospect for company...
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Post by ProvidencePortal on May 9, 2005 11:28:36 GMT -5
Can anyone explain the sadistic laughing at the end of the movie? I don't see a bit in the performance that suggests sadism to me. Donnie's last laugh sounds happy, relieved, sweet .... like he's being tickled. I see nothing sinister there. |
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Post by greedy on May 15, 2005 13:36:00 GMT -5
wonders if gretchens body was tickling donnies feet
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Post by Madridarko on May 28, 2005 22:26:59 GMT -5
He states that the search for God is Abserd.... I don't think that by saying "The search for god is absurd" Donnie meant it in a heretical way... he was just saying that he is tired of weighing pro's and con's and trieng to find evidence to his existance, and he never comes up with an answer and that the whole nullifieng process is absurd. Remember also that he did say that the search for god is absurd if everybody dies alone... if everybody dies alone, there is no god... meaning that the whole search is absurd if there is no god, but if there is one, then it is possibly worth it.... Donnie's whole satanic endeveour theory seems pretty interesting... goes along pretty well with the theory proposed by BigBoy linking Donnie Darko with witch craft... Who would have thought that the story of a tragic heroe's quest to save the world was all part of an acopolypsical demoniac occult... OMG, the evil subliminal messege of Donnie Darko has just been revealed... So that "GodisLove" guy was right... DD is evil disguised in the most meticulus methods.... Still won't stop me from enjoying it... |
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Post by Madridarko on May 28, 2005 22:28:43 GMT -5
He states that the search for God is Abserd.... I don't think that by saying "The search for god is absurd" Donnie meant it in a heretical way... he was just saying that he is tired of weighing pro's and con's and trieng to find evidence to his existance, and he never comes up with an answer and that the whole nullifieng process is absurd. Remember also that he did say that the search for god is absurd if everybody dies alone... if everybody dies alone, there is no god... meaning that the whole search is absurd if there is no god, but if there is one, then it is possibly worth it.... Donnie's whole satanic endeveour theory seems pretty interesting... goes along pretty well with the theory proposed by BigBoy linking Donnie Darko with witch craft... Who would have thought that the story of a tragic heroe's quest to save the world was all part of an apocolypsical demoniac occult system... OMG, the evil subliminal messege of Donnie Darko has just been revealed... So that "GodisLove" guy was right... DD is evil disguised in the most meticulus methods.... Still won't stop me from enjoying it... |
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Post by SDog on Dec 12, 2005 16:27:37 GMT -5
Regarding Donnie returning through the wormhole:
1) Could it be that the wormhole had existed all the time, located just above the roof above Donnie's room? Then all he had to do is beat the engine through the hole, which would have continued to exist even after he died. Or does this contradict the PoTT?
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Post by Bigboy on Dec 12, 2005 17:11:32 GMT -5
Not impossible, and a valid interpretation.
But I always read the cinema scene - Frank tells Donnie "I can do anything, and so can you" then 'conjures' a portal - as showing that Donnie had the power/ potential to create portals (read wormhole), and that it is he that creates the wormhole to the PU at the end of the movie, and that he does this on Carpathian Ridge. I always saw the black vortex above Donnie's house at the end as the manifestation of the corruption that was about to transmute to the universe killing black hole. (As described in PoTT)
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Post by anth on Dec 12, 2005 19:08:31 GMT -5
I think the main thing we have to distinguish is the difference between a corruption and a wormhole. A corruption is bad, we arn't privvy to why a corruption takes place, but we do know that once it happens the countdown to end of the world begins. Donnie's role was to be motivated and learn how to route the artifact (engine) back to the past. So this time, the artifact appears in the same place, but it has reason to be there, as Donnie sent it through a wormhole, which he created. We see this at the end of the film while Donnie is sitting on the car with a deceased Gretchen inside. A wormhole is good, as it doesn't open up the Tangent Universe. So realistically, (according to the PoTT) the world will not end. The only way this is possible, would be to ignore the PoTT altogether. Of course, that would contradict the whole film. As for Donnie, I honestly feel that he woke with 'deja vu' like everyone else. But, through his 'deja vu' he grew mentally, and realised he wasn't crazy. There is nothing I know of to suggest he knew the artifact was falling... he didn't go through the wormhole himself, therefore, he couldn't have gone back in time himself.
Just some random thoughts on the subject. Great ideas though. I love the idea that Donnie is actually a motif for Lucifer.
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Post by Frank on Dec 29, 2005 9:05:02 GMT -5
umm..i don't mean to be nasty but it's: 28 days 06 hours 42 minutes 12 seconds
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Post by greedy on Jan 16, 2006 22:34:42 GMT -5
wonders if gretchens body was tickling donnies feet ok i honestlt don't remeber posting this |
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Post by elizabeth on Feb 18, 2006 10:22:33 GMT -5
Donnie is following Gretchen's advice.He replaces all these hours of pain and darkness,with something happy,something that reminds him how beautiful life is.
His laugh is one of pure joy.Even death is welcome after all the things he went through.
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Post by matedy on Feb 18, 2006 15:59:57 GMT -5
i think hes sort of laughing at the world, because in spite of all of the problems hes had and all of the sorrow hes gone through, he still found the answers to his questions. hes laughing because hes realized that he has to die in order to save gretchin, frank, and everyone else who dies in the result of him living, and he finds it amusing.its the ultimate irony.
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Post by elizabeth on Feb 20, 2006 16:01:01 GMT -5
All the time he laughs his eyes are closed. As also when he falls to sleep.He wants to die thinking of all the good things in life that are worth sacrificing yourself for.He is so happy that he is back home that he never even thinks of getting up.This is where he wants to stay.I think anyone would choose the same,if their worst nightmare became real even for a second..
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Post by Bigboy on Feb 20, 2006 16:24:40 GMT -5
These views seem pretty widely held - providing you interpret the movie as a time-travel movie. But even if it is, and Donnie has "gone back" to before all the "bad stuff"/nightmare happens, surely his foreknowledge would allow him to prevent it happening again - suicide seems pretty extreme to me. There's no reason for him to repeat his actions the second time around if he knows the consequences (flooding the school, burning down JC's house, killing Frank, Gretchen's death etc.). Even if history is doomed to repeat itself, whilst his mother might not be on the plane - because Kitty Farmer would have chaperoned "Sparkle Motion" - there is no reason to believe that Donnie's sister wouldn't still be on the doomed plane. But then that fact that Donnie stays in bed rather than escaping the engine is a change - suggesting that the future wouldn't be set in stone if Donnie had lived... Not as romantic/poetic as elizabeth's and matedy's interpretations, but there you go...  |
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Post by elizabeth on Feb 23, 2006 18:53:18 GMT -5
Why Donnie doesn't use his foreknowledge to change the future?To make different choices?
Maybe because of the time line distortion past,present and future combined,creating chaos in the process.This means that everything has already happened,is happening right now and will happen eventually.Donnie got caught in the middle of a cosmic anomaly where rules like cause and consequence do not apply anymore or changed order..
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