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Post by ihatejimcunningham on Dec 9, 2004 21:37:47 GMT -5
This great movie was presented to me about a month ago, since then i have watched it each day trying to figure out the entire story, at least in my mind  . I have a question about the plot that i can't seem to solve though, after "saving the world" donnie dies by the airplane jet, in his room which is apparently from the airplane carrying Donnie's mother and little sister. So, by dying has donnie saved his mother and little sister like he was planning? Or has Donnie let them die too? By dying does Donnie have his Mom and little sister not take the trip because preoccupied with the death of a family member? But if that were to happen, then would the same plane, carrying different passengers, drop the same engine? -dancing around the answer? maybe |
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Post by josh on Dec 10, 2004 0:46:42 GMT -5
It is important to note that there are two universes, the "main" universe and the "tangential." Failure to end the T.U. would end all universes and everyone dies. Ending the T.U. would only affect the entities in that universe (manipulated dead et al) while saving their related identities in the main universe As such Donnie's manipulation of the plane engine saves the real people in the "main" universe and ends all related entities in the T.U. who only exist until 28 days, 06 hours 42 minutes and 12 seconds have passed after Frank and Donnies initial conversation.
Omni, Prov, Gret, GretFan, Mad and others will hopefully address details I've failed to mention.
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Post by but on Dec 10, 2004 15:54:09 GMT -5
but, if i remember correctly, it was a two engine plane, which, would send the plane into a uncontrollable spin (like top gun) killing the mother and sister.
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Post by anon on Jan 26, 2005 13:48:18 GMT -5
how does Donnie know that his mom is even on that particular plane? I think in Donnie's mind hes only saving Gretchen.
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Post by Bigboy on Jan 26, 2005 14:15:48 GMT -5
but: A two engined airliner can quite quite easily make a controlled (emergency) landing with one engine, by skilled use of the flaps and full throttle on the remaining engine.
A spin may have resulted in Top Gun - but that was a light fighter travelling at supersonic speeds, a heavy air-liner travelling at a couple of hundred miles an hour is much more forgiving.
anon: Good point! Gretchen's death certainly forced his hand psycholgically speaking, but I think he was (becoming) aware that he was actually saving everyone.
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Post by Phil on Jan 31, 2005 11:45:47 GMT -5
Donnie knew which plain his mum was on, because she rang while him and gretchen were on the bed.
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Post by h4m on Jan 31, 2005 14:01:08 GMT -5
im pretty sure that the news said it was a 747 and im also pretty sure that a 747 has at least 4 engines
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Post by Phil on Jan 31, 2005 14:04:04 GMT -5
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Post by Bigboy on Jan 31, 2005 16:17:51 GMT -5
Yup - 747= 4 engines.
Odd really - they could have said 737,757,767 - all of which have 2 engines. A typo by the site designers maybe, the 747 is probably the best known and most obvious.
But just for the fun of it, has anyone a theory where the engine sent back from the TU somehow transmutes into a 747 engine during it's transition between universes?
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Post by h4m on Jan 31, 2005 18:00:16 GMT -5
actually im pretty sure that on the news in the movie when they are at the hotel it says 747
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Post by Bigboy on Jan 31, 2005 18:14:30 GMT -5
Oh.
It still seems to leave a discrepancy though - it means that the engine sent back does not match the one that crashed into his room at the beginning.
Do we (a) put this down to continuity error, or (b) assume that sending back any aeroplane jet engine will do?
I prefer option (a).
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Post by gretchen on Jan 31, 2005 19:06:31 GMT -5
(b) will not work
what donnie did was send back the replica TU engine. not the PU engine that started the whole thing.
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. I have a question about the plot that i can't seem to solve though, after "saving the world" donnie dies by the airplane jet, in his room which is apparently from the airplane carrying Donnie's mother and little sister. So, by dying has donnie saved his mother and little sister like he was planning? Or has Donnie let them die too? By dying does Donnie have his Mom and little sister not take the trip because preoccupied with the death of a family member? But if that were to happen, then would the same plane, carrying different passengers, drop the same engine?
