Post by Shub on Jun 16, 2004 5:38:37 GMT -5
Hello,
I love this movie, I've read a lot of things this last days and look at the Richard Kerry's commentaries on the DVD...and there's still something that I don't understand.
Can you help me ?
First I'd like to explain you what I've understood, then you will see my question.
There is a primary universe (the normal one, the one which exists at the start of the film).
Sometimes, it's very rare, a failure of time/space can happen. You can see there was a failure because it remains an artefact. This artefact must be made of metal cause that's the only thing that can travel into time/space (through a wormhole i.e. a vortex made of water).
In Donnie Darko, the jet engine is the artefact resulting of a time/space failure. Because this jet engine comes from the future, it's an "impossible thing" in the primary universe (this cannot exist), time and space react to this impossibility and create a "tangeant universe".
This tangeant universe can't exist for a long time and will colapse soon.
In this tangeant universe things are differents, and people too.
1. It exists a "living receiver". This guy got "supernatural powers" (said in sparrow's book and said by Richard Kelly). He's help by all the people around him (friends, familly...)
2. It exists "manipulated deads". These people got more powers than the "living receiver". These people are those who will die during the tangeant universe and are here to make the "living receiver" accomplish his task (saving the world).
3. All others are "manipulated livings". These people don't know what happen but will help the "living receiver" (even if they don't really know that they are doing this). When the primary universe will get its place, it may be possible that these people will have a brief memory of what happened in this tangeant universe.
According to what Richard Kelly and Sparrow are saying, the main goal of the "living receiver" is to put the artefact back in the primary universe.
Are you all ok with this? Because if you are, there's something that I don't understand...
Question:
Why does "Manipulmated Dead Frank" need Donnie to put the jet engine in the wormhole? I mean, we've seen
the jet engine felt on Donnie's roof at the start of the film, so it's the "destiny" of this jet engine to
fall in a wormhole and go back in the past, the jet engine doesn't not need the help of Donnie to fall this
way.
I really don't understand MD Frank's motivation.
For me, acting like this wouldn't resolve anything. Because if the jet engine falls again in the wormhole and is sent again in the past, lands again on Donnie's roof, the artefact will exist AGAIN in the primary universe, this "impossible piece of metal" for this primary universe, and so once again it creates
a new failure of time/space, and then again a tangeant universe (but this time without Donnie, cause he's dead!).
Eventually Donnie's goal would have been to avoid the jet engine falling on his roof, cause like this the
artefact would had never been exists at all and the tangeant universe too...but that's not what Kelly and
Sparrow say, they just say : "he's goal is to put the artefact back in the primary universe"...so I don't
understand.
Help me please, I need to resolve this key :S
I love this movie, I've read a lot of things this last days and look at the Richard Kerry's commentaries on the DVD...and there's still something that I don't understand.
Can you help me ?
First I'd like to explain you what I've understood, then you will see my question.
There is a primary universe (the normal one, the one which exists at the start of the film).
Sometimes, it's very rare, a failure of time/space can happen. You can see there was a failure because it remains an artefact. This artefact must be made of metal cause that's the only thing that can travel into time/space (through a wormhole i.e. a vortex made of water).
In Donnie Darko, the jet engine is the artefact resulting of a time/space failure. Because this jet engine comes from the future, it's an "impossible thing" in the primary universe (this cannot exist), time and space react to this impossibility and create a "tangeant universe".
This tangeant universe can't exist for a long time and will colapse soon.
In this tangeant universe things are differents, and people too.
1. It exists a "living receiver". This guy got "supernatural powers" (said in sparrow's book and said by Richard Kelly). He's help by all the people around him (friends, familly...)
2. It exists "manipulated deads". These people got more powers than the "living receiver". These people are those who will die during the tangeant universe and are here to make the "living receiver" accomplish his task (saving the world).
3. All others are "manipulated livings". These people don't know what happen but will help the "living receiver" (even if they don't really know that they are doing this). When the primary universe will get its place, it may be possible that these people will have a brief memory of what happened in this tangeant universe.
According to what Richard Kelly and Sparrow are saying, the main goal of the "living receiver" is to put the artefact back in the primary universe.
Are you all ok with this? Because if you are, there's something that I don't understand...
Question:
Why does "Manipulmated Dead Frank" need Donnie to put the jet engine in the wormhole? I mean, we've seen
the jet engine felt on Donnie's roof at the start of the film, so it's the "destiny" of this jet engine to
fall in a wormhole and go back in the past, the jet engine doesn't not need the help of Donnie to fall this
way.
I really don't understand MD Frank's motivation.
For me, acting like this wouldn't resolve anything. Because if the jet engine falls again in the wormhole and is sent again in the past, lands again on Donnie's roof, the artefact will exist AGAIN in the primary universe, this "impossible piece of metal" for this primary universe, and so once again it creates
a new failure of time/space, and then again a tangeant universe (but this time without Donnie, cause he's dead!).
Eventually Donnie's goal would have been to avoid the jet engine falling on his roof, cause like this the
artefact would had never been exists at all and the tangeant universe too...but that's not what Kelly and
Sparrow say, they just say : "he's goal is to put the artefact back in the primary universe"...so I don't
understand.
Help me please, I need to resolve this key :S