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Post by Ryan on Mar 20, 2004 16:52:13 GMT -5
When they show all the characters at the very end of the movie, the scene with Frank is very confusing to me. He looks as if he is about to cry, like he somehow knows what is going to happen in the future. Can one of the experts please explain this to me. Thanks.
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Post by JustKim on Mar 26, 2004 14:57:15 GMT -5
Not an expert, but I'll throw in. The movie implies that everyone is part of "God's" plan, i.e. liquid thing-y coming out of everyone's chest. The shot involving the living Frank pans out over his entire room at first and portrays Frank as an artist. It shows he has obsessed over the making of his halloween costume and the mask he makes. (very scary mask, gahh) I think it is implied that Frank knows he needs to make the costume and doesn't understand why. Next he puts his hand to his eye while he is crying and looks confused. (the eye that Donnie was supposed to shoot a bullet through.) Okay, try to follow me here, I'm not as organized in this as I would like to be. Directly before this scene Donnie dies and erases all of the things that happened in the movie between time loops. There is a deleted scene, (that really shouldn't have been deleted), where Donnie describes what goes on in his head after a sleepwalking incident. He says it's like remembering a dream when you first wake up. You remember everything at first, but it dissappears with every passing second and all you are left with are the feelings from that dream. The end sequence depicts all of the people Donnie had a direct effect on forgetting the things that happened when Donnie was alive. It shows them grieving over things they don't understand or remember. Fuck I love that scene.
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Post by Oscar The Grouch on Mar 27, 2004 0:28:52 GMT -5
Hey
i was just on there website, and im guessing the reason why frank was freaked out is because, the book
philosiphy of time travel says in chapter 12 that the maniplulated (living and dead i think) can have dreams of the 4 dimention (which is where frank is killed and therefore can talk to donnie in the four dimention, anyways) frank is freaked because he has a faint memory of what happend
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Post by me on Apr 6, 2004 17:55:48 GMT -5
Not an expert, but I'll throw in. The movie implies that everyone is part of "God's" plan, i.e. liquid thing-y coming out of everyone's chest. The shot involving the living Frank pans out over his entire room at first and portrays Frank as an artist. It shows he has obsessed over the making of his halloween costume and the mask he makes. (very scary mask, gahh) I think it is implied that Frank knows he needs to make the costume and doesn't understand why. Next he puts his hand to his eye while he is crying and looks confused. (the eye that Donnie was supposed to shoot a bullet through.) Okay, try to follow me here, I'm not as organized in this as I would like to be. Directly before this scene Donnie dies and erases all of the things that happened in the movie between time loops. There is a deleted scene, (that really shouldn't have been deleted), where Donnie describes what goes on in his head after a sleepwalking incident. He says it's like remembering a dream when you first wake up. You remember everything at first, but it dissappears with every passing second and all you are left with are the feelings from that dream. The end sequence depicts all of the people Donnie had a direct effect on forgetting the things that happened when Donnie was alive. It shows them grieving over things they don't understand or remember. Fuck I love that scene. thanks, that helped me out. ;D |
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Post by izz on Apr 9, 2004 9:49:08 GMT -5
Frank was cryign coz he couldnt save donnie the scene take splace right after he went home from dropping elizath remember the honking of his car, and donnie didint listen frank coudltn sva ehim ad he was upset
it ses in the direcotrs comentary
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Post by rachelle on Jul 22, 2004 22:07:51 GMT -5
In one of the deleted scenes donnie decribes his expericances sleepwalk like when you walk up from a very vivid dream which feels real... however with every passing second the dream fades. This is what happens at the end when everyone is crying ect. They all wake up from the alternate universe and like a dream it is slipping away. Frank touches his eye knowing something is wrong but it's slipping away and he can't remember.
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Post by comradeTJH on Apr 4, 2006 12:43:11 GMT -5
That is one very fascinating fact that dreams can be remembered right after awaking but fade away very fast. And it's kinda scary that, no matter how hard you try, you just can't keep this memory until it's nearly completely vanished.
My girlfriend told me that she used to write down her dreams right after she waked up but had to stop with that because it was scarying her too much....
Dreams are really really strange stuff...
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Post by Guest on Feb 20, 2007 1:05:04 GMT -5
By far one of the most interesting movies, but one missing link for me is how the two teachers connect to the ending. When they are meeting together and discussing Donnie, its like they know something. I mean Barrymore tells him Cellar Door is the most beautiful word and then there he is going down one. Do they transcend both realities?
And on a lighter note, what are all the references to Dukakis about, I mean its the first line in the movie.
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Post by giantbunnyrabbit on Jul 27, 2007 22:10:54 GMT -5
I think the Dukakis/Reagan stuff was just to give the audience the sense of being in the 80's. Also, Reagan represents the very shallow aspects of that time which are reflected in Jim Cunningham, Kitty Farmer and Sparkle Motion.
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