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Post by Savant on Nov 4, 2003 15:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by darkmystic on Nov 4, 2003 18:21:54 GMT -5
Believe it or not, the "cellardoor" quote was from the very famous JRR Tolkien who was first and foremost a linguist. Yes, its the same guy who wrote Lord of the Rings.  "Most English-speaking people, for instance, will admit that cellar door is 'beautiful', especially if dissociated from its sense (and from its spelling). More beautiful than, say, sky, and far more beautiful than beautiful. Well then, in Welsh for me cellar doors are extraordinarily frequent, and moving to the higher dimension, the words in which there is pleasure in the contemplation of the association of form and sense are abundant." JRR Tolkien. English and Welsh. Lecture, October 1955. Here's a link: www.uib.no/People/hnohf/vice.htm |
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Post by thanks D on Nov 5, 2003 6:46:31 GMT -5
thanks very much just what i wanted ;D
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Post by EricDraven on Nov 5, 2003 16:21:03 GMT -5
Chris T, if you understand what you just said,then yes thats all really What Donnie Darko is about. I Like the way you think.... keep it up
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Post by darkmystic on Nov 5, 2003 19:17:49 GMT -5
Hmmm, well this is part I don't agree with. I don't think that the tangent universe would have been created if he didn't die. It was already closed, by the engine. However, if he did not die, he would have rejected the path for him determined by God and thus would have died alone. You see, by being the Living Receiver he was in the unique position to know the future and thus decide which path he would choose. Roberta Sparrow chose to reject this path.
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Post by Billiam8538 on Nov 6, 2003 9:04:37 GMT -5
Hey, from what's said in the commentary of the DVD about why Drew's character hated Sparkle Motion wasn't really about the unspoken English Teacher hatred, but like someone noted before that it was because of the fact that everyone liked Sparkle Motion where as the chinese girls performance was ridiculed and joked about when she was really exposing herself. The director of the movie also notes that for him, he wanted Drew's charater to hate Sparkle Motion because of how it was the start of exploiting children to the public eye, which Drew obviously had a bad experience with growing up in real life.
On a side note the director also explains that each of the main characters that surround Donnie all feel the tangent universe but don't know about it or see it as clearly as Donnie does. They're all manipulated by "God" to manipulate Donnie in his emotional struggle and his decision making.
Plus at the end of the movie the mother and the girlfriend do wave at each other because of some subliminal bond from the tangent universe. They all have a Deja Vu' experience from it, explaining why they all react differently when they wake up. They have it as if it were a dream, where they remember the dream right after they wake up, but as the day goes on they start to forget it more and more until it becomes faint.
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Post by crisweaver on Nov 6, 2003 13:14:53 GMT -5
wow i was rite  |
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Post by crisweaver on Nov 8, 2003 10:28:58 GMT -5
I just watched the film with the voice overs and to be honest it pretty much explanes everything so for those of you who havent i suggest you watch it its very helpfull ;D
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Post by Follow me on Nov 8, 2003 10:43:17 GMT -5
Answer me this,
What were the two punks doing in grandma's death house at the end? Why were they there? Stealing the gems?
I can't wait to see the film next March in the cinema when the director's cut comes out.
Great comments y'all..........I like the way the film makes one think but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's the best ever made. Its definetly one of my favourites. Has anyone seen 'Last Night' from a few years ago, its by a canadian I think. Brilliant. Also '28 days' another great film?
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Post by crisweaver on Nov 8, 2003 10:47:06 GMT -5
yeh they were just stealing but they were being manipulated reffered to as the "manipulated thugs"
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Post by follow me on Nov 8, 2003 10:55:13 GMT -5
Right, the manipulated thugs. Manipulated in the sense that they had an important part to play in Donnie fulfilling his destiny....
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Post by unplayable on Nov 14, 2003 9:08:36 GMT -5
YES HE DID HAVE TO DIE-THE WHOLE GODDAM FILM IS ABOUT FRANK WANTING TO COME BACK TO LIFE BY INTRODUCING DONNY TO HIS GF AND WANTING TO SAVE HER.EVERYTHING FRANK MADE DONNY DO LEAD TO HIS ENDING THE WORLD TO SAVE HIS GIRLFRIEND-THE DESTRUCTION OF THE SCHOOL(TO MEET HER) THE BURNING OF THE GUYS HOUSE(TO GET THE MOTHER OUT OF TOWN SO THEY COULD HAVE THE PARTY SO SHES GONNA DIE SO DONNY ENDS THE WORLD TO SAVE,ONLY IN ACTUAL FACT HES SAVING FRANK)
the irony of the whole thing is amazing tho,and everything ive just said has probably been said a million times just im to lazy to go back+read everything
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Post by darkmystic on Nov 17, 2003 19:17:48 GMT -5
unplayable,
"EVERYTHING FRANK MADE DONNY DO LEAD TO HIS ENDING THE WORLD TO SAVE HIS GIRLFRIEND"
Huh? I think most would think the exact opposite of that occured. That Donnie saved the world, and that Gretchen dying led to his doing it. Also, you say that its all about Frank trying to save himself? How exactly is Donnie saving Frank?
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Post by unplayable on Nov 18, 2003 10:02:54 GMT -5
by not being alive to kill him.when he died in the plane crash in his bedroom,it happened before he knocked over frank
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Post by crisweaver on Nov 18, 2003 10:38:22 GMT -5
its nothing to do with saving Frank yes by donnie dying frank doesnt die but the whole film is not about that
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