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Post by joei on Nov 4, 2003 17:54:25 GMT -5
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ok i saw donnie darko like 3times, its one of my favorite movies ever, i got the whole time travel thing and i understood most of the movie, but what is that cellardoor thing? where drew barrymoore says some poet said "cellardoor is the most beautiful word in the english language" whats that all about? anyone know? reply please
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Post by Savant on Nov 4, 2003 19:51:27 GMT -5
www.ruinedeye.com/cd/follow.htmgood site about Donnie Darko info. If you look in the misc info link it will talk some about celler door. apparently J.R.R. Tolkein and Edgar Allen Poe both thought this.
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Post by claire on Nov 18, 2003 16:15:20 GMT -5
cellar door has to do with when they go to roberta sparrows house and go through a cellar door
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Post by Adam on Jan 14, 2004 19:56:06 GMT -5
Cellar door - written on the blackboard, its just another guiding factor which leads Donnie to his fateful end. It also represents beauty in life. in one of the deleted scenes, Karen asks donnie if he will "ever find his cellar door" and he responds by saying "i have, she just wont talk to me". We're all searching for a cellar door; "something better". Karen Pomeroy rocks.
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Post by chels on Jan 15, 2004 20:53:12 GMT -5
but why do they believe that cellardoor is the most beautiful word ....puzzling eh?
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Post by Adam again on Jan 19, 2004 17:05:41 GMT -5
donno, when i get my degree in linguistics il let you know lol.
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Post by Spike on Jun 1, 2004 16:53:59 GMT -5
you dont hear the ellegance in the phrase celler door? it sounds very ellegant and almost french to me.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Jun 1, 2004 23:45:29 GMT -5
Some believe it is also a nod to alice and wonderland with the rabbit and his rabbit hole
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Post by IIVII on Jun 17, 2004 14:54:39 GMT -5
I dunno what Tolkein and Poe were smoking but the greatest words in the english language are "beer and sex". mmmm just thinking about those words and i'm allready happy.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Jun 17, 2004 15:04:55 GMT -5
I dunno what Tolkein and Poe were smoking but the greatest words in the english language are "beer and sex". mmmm just thinking about those words and i'm allready happy. indeed....but as far as best sounding words cellar door still loses to macademia nut |
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Post by darkos_light on Jul 19, 2004 0:58:56 GMT -5
i agree with spike ... when you say them with a nerdy fake french accent, it does sound french, and therefore beautiful.
poe and tolkien had a point ... the only english words that are beautiful are ones that sound like another language. lol.
cell-ohr doohr (fake french? accent? sick? yes)
emily
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Post by reignman on Jul 19, 2004 1:23:23 GMT -5
Donnie says "cellar door" when he is at Sparrow's house at the end of the movie, so he and Gretchen go in. This is one of the many things that must happen in order for Gretchen and Frank to die again, and for Donnie to make his choice to die when the plane engine hits. She was the manipulated living when she wrote it on the blackboard, and she also could not have written it if she wasn't fired, which was because Frank made Donnie flood the school.
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Post by dd on Jul 19, 2004 16:16:03 GMT -5
not to mention the kiddy porn dungeon behind a secret cellar door
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Post by darkos_light on Jul 19, 2004 20:09:47 GMT -5
well, actually, the kiddie porn vault had nothing to do with "cellar door", it just happened to be revealed when DD was summoned by Frank to burn it down, so that Mrs Farmer couldn't go to LA, so Rose Darko had to, and therefore the jet engine could fall ... etc.
I guess I never realized why DD flooded the school ... I forgot that made the PTA get mad about the kids reading G. Greene's book and therefore Mrs Pomeroy got fired ... thanks reignman.
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Post by reignman on Jul 23, 2004 1:22:44 GMT -5
also, Donnie starts going out with Gretchen, which leads to her death, and Seth is pissed off at Donnie ("they think i did it" ... "you know what? I think you did it."), which leads to Seth attacking Donnie and Gretchen, which leads to Gretchen dieing. A number of things have to happen in order for Gretchen to die again. While people are "manipulated," Frank also causes Donnie to do things (flood the school and burn Cunningham's house) to cause Gretchen dieing again.
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