How did the engine get there in the first place?

[flacidsteel716x]

OK, so Donnie sends the engine back to the Primary Universe to save the world. One way or another there is a Donnie that dies under the engine...
The engine that killed Donnie obviously came from him sending it back, but where did the first engine come from if the Tangent Universe has barely been opened.
By definition for the first engine to get there Donnie would have already had to send it back from 28 days after, therefore already saving the universe, so there would be no need for Frank.
If there is an engine from the future then that universe was already saved because Donnie already sent it back, or did it come from somewhere else?

[cameronm]

This is the exact same idea i had....i read the PoTT and from what i understand, because the engine (artifact) has arrived in the primary universe (from nowhere) , a tangent 1 is formed to "fix" this problem....donnie then manipulates this tangent universe in ways as to allow the engine to have an origin...this is what collapses the tangent universe and allows the primary one to carry on normally because the engine now has an origin


i dunno if this is right but thats how i understand it? someone please help correct me!!

[dan769]

The first jet engine is one of the unexplained mysteries of the film. What we can use is the logic from how the rest of the movie works to break it down to realistic possibilities

It seems clear to me and plenty of others on here that the TU is not created by the Artifact. The TU had already started several minutes before the engine appeared and the PoTT states the Artifact is evidence of a TU and not the cause.

For me there are only two genuine possibilities for the Artifact’s origin.

1. It was torn off a plane in the future PU as the TU was formed
2. The TU is a replica of the PU but as it was formed there was a glitch in the duplication process and an extra engine was produced.

If the engine came through a portal it would have had to come from a future point in the PU. The portals only link the two universes together so it would have to come from there. Obviously when Donnie closes the corruption that future event in the PU won’t happen now so no plane will ever have an engine torn off.

[lol]

You guys are really stupid. I can't believe this forum even exists. IT'S A FUCKING MOVIE, NOT REAL LIFE. GET IN TOUCH WITH REALITY, fucking retards.

[Phil]

ok

[sarahdarko]

To the person that called us stupid. You shouldn't have even came to this site to call us stupid. If you haven't heard what being a fan of something is such as this movie then I suggest you go look into a dictionary and find it and believe me the word fan is in it. By the way since this is a site of a specific movie then I really don't think your opinion is going to matter here. Its not our fault your so in touch with reality while us people actually like to get away from it for a while. Like the 'ole' saying opinions are like assholes and everyone has them. Plus I know a lot of people that are always finding ways to escape reality and I think thats only normal for a human being to do that.

[godlysparrow]

Just a thought, but maybe the Jet Engine was from the Primary Universe. "Artifacts returned to the Primary Universe are often linked in religious iconography, as their appearance on Earth seems to defy logical explanation."- The Philosophy of Time Travel.
Returned. To Return it, it must come from there. This means that consequently, the Artifact is an Artifact from the Primary Universe that carries into the Tangent Universe. The Fact that it has the Same Serial Number as another Jet's, here's a guess. If the Plane were to crash in the Primary Universe, maybe there's a way that it could Kill Donnie Darko, even if the Engine were to stop, and Donnie needed 28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds to Save the World, so maybe another Time Traveler like Frank assured that the Jet didn't crash.

[dan769]

The word returned could mean as you say it came from the Primary Universe. The thing is everything in the Tangent Universe came from the Primary Universe, it was a duplicated Universe.

[pikachu]

Here is my theory.

When the engine Donnie sent from the TU to the PU came out the wormhole, it didn't immediately fall down into Darko's house in the PU. The engine was somehow lurking in the PU, and during this period the TU was created.

(It might be a jet stream or tornado caused by the suddenly formed wormhole keeping the engine lurking somewhere in the atmosphere, or something more complicated just kept the engine from directly falling.)

Since the TU was a completely duplicated version of the PU, the lurking engine in the PU was also duplicated. This can explain why the two engine fell down into Darko's house in exactly the same way, because they were in exactly the same status.

Please excuse my English. It's not my mother tongue.