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Post by JohnGalt on Apr 19, 2005 17:24:45 GMT -5
Heres another one that is out there....sorry.
Does Donnie meet the triad of sociopathy? Flooding the school while sleepwalking??? equate to bed wetting?
Arson....setting JC's house on fire
Putting an axe in the dog's head....
Killing a person......
Prolly nothing...just throwing it out there...
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Apr 19, 2005 17:37:26 GMT -5
I think the third tell is animal torture, not murder. (Though the mascot could symbolize the former, and if it were the latter, shooting Frank in the eye would certainly meet the mark.)
Anyway, you raise an interesting point that should be added to the ongoing discussion of Donnie's mental state. Seems a close enough parallel that I'd call it likely RK knew about and worked in those particular tells, just to add fuel to the fire about whether Donnie was crazy.
(It's probably appropriate to note here that, though most of the long-timers around the forum will acknowledge the "Donnie's crazy hallucination" intrepretation of the movie, not many of us -- if any at all -- believe it's the one RK meant. Instead, we mostly believe it was a red herring inserted into the story to make the final outcome more emotional.)
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Post by Madridarko on Apr 22, 2005 2:54:02 GMT -5
There could be a remote possibility that Kelly did intentionally juxtapositioned Donnie's deeds with the triad of sociopathy... After all it would just add up to the endless list of "hints" and "foreshadowing/punning" background events.. But it might have also as well just been mere coincidence... We might never now the answer to that......
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Post by gretchen on Apr 22, 2005 9:03:03 GMT -5
i love madrid for learning new words. it's awesome.
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Post by Phil on Apr 22, 2005 12:32:39 GMT -5
There could be a remote possibility that Kelly did intentionally juxtapositioned Donnie's deeds with the triad of sociopathy... After all it would just add up to the endless list of "hints" and "foreshadowing/punning" background events.. But it might have also as well just been mere coincidence... We might never now the answer to that...... None of that made sense to me, too many big words  |
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Post by Madridarko on Apr 22, 2005 21:02:01 GMT -5
i love madrid for learning new words. it's awesome. Yeay! I am finally loved by Gretch.. I can die in peace now... No, not without telling you first that you have beutifull eyes... Now I can die knowing that I loved and was responded.   |
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Post by Madridarko on Apr 22, 2005 21:05:27 GMT -5
i love madrid for learning new words. it's awesome. Yeay! I am finally loved by Gretch.. I can die in peace now... No, not without telling you first that you have beutifull eyes... Now I can die knowing that I loved and was responded. I might be a terrible speller, but I do my best to improve my vocab. |
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Post by fenixtale on Apr 12, 2006 22:26:06 GMT -5
... hm
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Post by shadow09almost on Jun 20, 2006 16:43:21 GMT -5
for some reason i don't think donnie would be a sociopath, that just seems... just not what the film was intending to do. I mean, thats one of the reasons i don't like the "hallucination" idea, because it just kinda promotes the fact that people think donnie is crazy, when like Eddie Darko said, they're all full of bullshit. lol, srry. i had to use a line from the movie in here someplace.
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Post by thepretender on Jun 25, 2006 12:14:53 GMT -5
I don't think of Donnie as a sociopath either. Here is a definition I found... www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=39219To me Donnie is just one of those smart kids who is trying to deal with the hypocrisy and confusion that he sees around him. I am not saying that he doesn't have any psychological issues. (Remember one out of every five people do) ;-) I just think that smart kids have a hard time dealing with authority especially when authority comes in with some quack and tries to present his words as gospel truth. I think a lot of kids are dealt with these kinds of issues that make them either stronger in their own selves or they succumb to propaganda and learn to never question authority. The thing that I see about a sociopath is that they just don't care. I think Donnie cared about a lot of things. I believe that a sociopath would have looked on missing the jet engine as a nod from above to continue being a little shit. Instead his ultimate decision was that those things that he did were not as important as the people he loved. |
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Post by jenn on Oct 12, 2006 7:15:56 GMT -5
it is impossible for donnie to be a sociopath because he genuinley feels for everyone around him and expresses remorse for the things he does wrong. in hypnosis, although he laughs at the thought of burning down JC's house, he also describes his feelings of guilt. a sociopath does not know whether what they are doing is right or wrong, nor do they understand it enough to feel such immense remorse for doing it.
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Post by thepretender on Oct 12, 2006 23:51:35 GMT -5
I agree with you that he is not a sociopath...
I do feel that a sociopath is aware of what is right and what is wrong tho...
Otherwise they would not be sneaky about it.
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