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Post by Omnipotent on Oct 10, 2004 11:34:33 GMT -5
When Donnie approaches her after Miss Pomeroy (Drew Barrymore) gets fired and says I promise everything is going to be better for you (forgive me if that's not the exact wording) she drops her folder and runs away, afterwards you see a book with his name on it, I assume she has a thing for him, is this correct or did I miss something vital here?
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Post by josh on Oct 10, 2004 12:13:36 GMT -5
It does seem important in part because she is one of the individuals who are visited at the end of the movie, along with Dr. Thurman, Jim, Frank, Kitty, Monnitoff and Ms. Pomeroy. THe director's cut and Frank reaching for his eye suggest some sort of subconsious revelation/awareness. Other individuals more conistently prominent in the movie aren't shown, presumably because they are not significantly changed? But even then, as Jake ends the TU Chen is left without the only person who actively stood up for against the others "Just leave her alone." (chapter 4). The book cover with Donnie's name does seem significant, but not clearly explained.#nosmileys#nosmileys
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Post by rightfielder21 on Oct 10, 2004 13:22:57 GMT -5
It was important, but it is deeper than examined so far... Throughout Donnie’s journey in the tangent universe, in addition to figuring out what exactly he has to do with the engine and the universes, ect he is also preparing himself for the emotional/psychological part of the final task… Donnie’s biggest fear is dying alone, as we learn from his sessions with Dr. Thurman… The book with Donnie’s name on it is important, because Donnie realizes he is not only loved by his parents/family/Gretchen, but he is also idolized and loved by “outsiders”… This is a realization for him, that contrary to what he believed before, that he was alone, he is not, and Cherita is a prime example of someone who “doesn’t have to” love him (as compared to his family), idolizing him, therefore, he is not as alone as he thought…
I have explained this better before, than I have right here… If you do a search you can find a more clear answer to this question…
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Post by Omnipotent on Oct 10, 2004 13:26:15 GMT -5
The book with Donnie’s name on it is important, because Donnie realizes he is not only loved by his parents/family/Gretchen, but he is also idolized and loved by “outsiders”… This is a realization for him, that contrary to what he believed before, that he was alone, he is not, and Cherita is a prime example of someone who “doesn’t have to” love him (as compared to his family), idolizing him, therefore, he is not as alone as he thought… Great response. |
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Oct 10, 2004 18:51:10 GMT -5
I agree. A significant part of Donnie losing his fear of alienation is linked to him learning that he can and does impact other people in his community -- without even meaning too. Donnie's influence on Cherita is suggestive of ... echoes, in some ways ... his impact on the universe-size community at the end of the movie.
Very bright parallel, RF. Insightful.
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Post by rightfielder21 on Oct 10, 2004 19:01:15 GMT -5
Very bright parallel, RF. Insightful. I try...  I just wish it came out a little better than it did... |
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Oct 10, 2004 20:03:53 GMT -5
Nope -- came out perfectly: loud and clear. Great stuff.
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Post by Reed on Oct 20, 2004 1:19:47 GMT -5
When Donnie approaches her after Miss Pomeroy (Drew Barrymore) gets fired and says I promise everything is going to be better for you (forgive me if that's not the exact wording) she drops her folder and runs away, afterwards you see a book with his name on it, I assume she has a thing for him, is this correct or did I miss something vital here? I took this scene as evidence that Donnie had knowledge of the future. Not just 28 days into the future, but years. One reason that I initially thought that Donnie travelled back years in time. Now I'm not so sure what to think. |
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Post by josh on Oct 20, 2004 13:39:53 GMT -5
While I think Donnie believed that "everything's going to be better" for Chen, it seems more likely that this is an expression of hope rather than actual knowledge. Chust like though he can't know that God exists, he has "so much to look forward to." This ties into the fact whether Donnie had to die or not and whether or not it was a conscious choice.
Just a thought.#nosmileys
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Post by rightfielder21 on Oct 20, 2004 16:18:19 GMT -5
I'm you you on this one Josh...
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