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Post by rightfielder21 on Oct 31, 2004 12:55:46 GMT -5
I still don't get it though, they had a halloween party on the night of October the 29 and it was not literally Halloween yet. Why? Thier parents were out of town... And wasn't it more a party for Elizabeth getting into Harvard (?) than it was strictly a Halloween party?
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Post by gretchen on Oct 31, 2004 16:48:37 GMT -5
the movie opens on october 2nd. right?
just after midnight, the engine falls. october 3rd.
oct 3rd + 28 days = october 31st, halloween
if you look outside when donnie's friends are at the door, you'll see little kids trick or treating outside. not just donnie's party, halloween too.
happy halloween kids!
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Post by gretchen on Oct 31, 2004 16:49:59 GMT -5
no sorry, i lied.
they DO begin the party on october 30th, but it goes INTO october 31st, and he returns the artifact october 31st.
why were there trick or treaters? or am i seeing stuff?
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Post by Madridarko on Nov 1, 2004 21:53:58 GMT -5
Excactly that is my point, it is just crazy and messed up. Kids don't trickortreat on the early morning, they do it untill the afternoon, no you are not seeing things, there ARE kids trickortreating. And also why would they toilette-paper houses untill the morning. Hey maybe we have stubled upon a director's bluper.
Let me get the facts straight, the movie opens on October 1st but the TU starts somewhere around midnight which is already October 2nd. So then 28 days later it would be midnight ending October 30th entering October 31st. So that night, the night of Ocotober 30th-early morning of October 31st was party at his house.
The jet enigine thing happened, I suppose sometime before the world would have ended 6 hours 42 minutes and 12 seconds from midnight. I think it is safe to guess about 6:40 A.M. I can't recall the excact time that donnie saw in his watch as he is going up Carpthian Ridge.
I just made sure just in case and in October 1989 Halloween fell on 31st, like I thaught it did every year. So it was 6:40some in the morning of Halloween October 31st 1989 when Donnie saves the world. I kinda knew that that party is for the sister's celebration of getting into Harvard, but I also always thaought that is was a semi-excuse to cover up the party, that way it would have a true pourpose.
This still does not explain those kids asking for candy a day earlier. In case it helps anybody solve it, October 30th was a Monday and 31st a Tuesday.
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Post by whatever on Nov 10, 2004 4:23:27 GMT -5
hmm...i know this was discussed a long time ago, but i don´t think the tangent universe opened only to show donnie something, but also because it may have changed the life of some of those rotten people he knew... because they have some sort of memory of what happened in the tangent world, so even if Donnie going back in time and dying made him unable to burn down Cunninghams house, he still showed Cunningham that what he was wrong in his doings, and gave him one hell of a lot of guilt. same thing with that bitchy teacher/ dancingcoach...am i wrong? plase tell me, because i´m trying to analyse this movie for my english class, and it´s not easy...
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Post by rightfielder21 on Nov 10, 2004 5:18:27 GMT -5
he still showed Cunningham that what he was wrong in his doings, and gave him one hell of a lot of guilt. same thing with that bitchy teacher/ dancingcoach...am i wrong? plase tell me, because i´m trying to analyse this movie for my english class, and it´s not easy... That is exactly right.... You find out on the website, that a while after Cunningham commits suicide...
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Post by Madridarko on Nov 10, 2004 19:19:47 GMT -5
Fielder, they are only studieng the movie, so I guess they would not really care much of what the site says about if they suicide or not. If you notice, something bad happens to almost eveybody according to the website. The teacher dies in a car accident I think. But yeah if you only saw the movie, it would give you a sense that it changed all the rotten people. It made it better off for them someway or another. The coach dancing teacher will have second thaugts about Jim Cunningham. Gretchen will not die and probably will not have to pass through all that dad/mom/house pain she did. and over all everybody will get to live and not die alone because Donnie saved the world.
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Post by Fyre on Dec 1, 2004 18:27:43 GMT -5
Sorry if this is just a waste of space and has all been heard before but-- In Sparrow's book "The Philosophy of Time Travel," she mentions that "the only reason for an Artifcat (the engine) is Divine Intervention" (or something like that). So in answer to that...OLD question...yes, God, or Fate, or some supreme being of consciousness is behind it all. And, I would guess that the first time Donnie cheats death, it's because he still has a purpose. See, the engine from the plane has suddenly appeared here. It has no reason to be present in this universe. SOMEONE has to be responsible for getting it back where it belongs, giving it an excuse to be there, in order to stop the corruption in time. Donnie is the Living Reciever. He's the only one who can stop the aberration. Thus it is necessary that he lives in order to create a wormhole ((again, in TPOTT, in shows that he is capable fo creating wormholes htrough his power over water) to give the engine an excuse to be where it is. It isn't until after he's fixed the Artifact, given it a reason for existing, that he is allowed to die, thus sealing off the tangent universe. www.ruinedeye.com/cd/time1.htm for TPOTT
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Post by versusthemirror on Dec 2, 2004 21:32:09 GMT -5
dude i dont believe donny "still" had a purpose....i believe he was given a purpose because of the portal opening and the universes getting all messed up
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Post by okrad on Dec 26, 2004 17:23:36 GMT -5
ok i think that the reason donnie had to be called out of his room, avoiding the plane crash, instead of being killed by it, is which what ultimately what happens, is so he can accept dying. because before he was so afraid of dying alone and when he travelled back in time he laughed before he died. also 1. did anybody notice that their jack-o-lantern was frank (maybe cuz his sister was dating him) and 2. that when donnie looked at the picture of grandma death when she was young it was his SISTER! meaning if grandma death was also a reciever, somehow she came back later. maybe i dont really know the deal with that but it definitely looked exactly like his sister.
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Post by okrad on Jan 19, 2005 14:51:38 GMT -5
my last post didnt make much sense about the grandma death and sister thing. ill spell it out, maybe. ok right after donnie gets the book by grandma death he looks at a picture in the hallway that has grandma death in it. if you look really close, its his sister. and my explanation for this is that donnies sister went back in time or grandma death came to the future (and that would be why she could write the book cuz she had experienced it) hopefully that made a little more sense but i want to know if maybe im seeing things...
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Post by Madridarko on Jan 19, 2005 23:12:46 GMT -5
Hello Okrad, well I had certainly not noticed that before. I don't think maybe it was neccesarily it was the sister, maybe there was a coicidentual similarity with them and besides they don't show Roberta's picture in it's full clarity. I wouldn't know how to respond to that though, I want to belive, but I am a bit skeptical. and yes the Jack-o-lantern is in deed of Frank Bunny Rabbit, or at least the one that Donnie carves out.
I do like your idea that maybe the whole concept of the movie is more personally related to Donnie, as in that all this happened to him to learn from it. It might have been more of a personal journey where he learned of death and not fearing it because he is not alone. Because if he would have died the first time the engine crashed, he would have died angry at the world and thinking that he is worthless, confused, and alone.
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Post by Dan theman on Jan 22, 2005 22:01:20 GMT -5
question, whats the point of the fat jogging man thats in the woods and outside the Darko residence the night of the party. Is he sorta like a messanger like frank, but just making sure everything happens just right?
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Post by Madridarko on Jan 22, 2005 22:06:36 GMT -5
He has no real purppouse, he is just an FAA guy that is there checking on donnie because of the plane crash thing. he is human and is investigating donnie. that's all, the story wouldn't change without him.
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Post by okrad on Jan 26, 2005 18:08:01 GMT -5
yeah. maybe it isnt roberta/donnies sister cuz they dontconcentrate on it but the best part about this movie is that theres something new i see in it everytime i watch it. this isnt really a response to what i posted before but oh well. i do feel that it could be grandma death in the picture though mainly because how would she understand all this time travel stuff. but maybe im wrong and concentrating on something insignificant...
i guess this was kinda a response to my old one
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