|
Post by MadWorld on May 20, 2004 20:01:57 GMT -5
I understand the whole movie execpt for the part with the sphere thingies coming out of there chests. What was the purpose of those things???
|
|
|
Post by Twitchmonkey on Jun 2, 2004 0:01:11 GMT -5
Thats exactly what I thought but you put it in better terms than I couldve ever hoped to....nice post
|
|
ElHeftismo25
New Member
The sky is gonna open up...
Posts: 23
|
Post by ElHeftismo25 on Jun 5, 2004 15:44:05 GMT -5
The spear- thingies are time leading people on. They are their pre-determined paths like Monnittoff and Donnie are talking about in the classroom scene.
|
|
ElHeftismo25
New Member
The sky is gonna open up...
Posts: 23
|
Post by ElHeftismo25 on Jun 5, 2004 15:48:14 GMT -5
Anyone catch that Frank is Elizabeth's Boyfriend? Donnie rides right past him on his way down from Carpathian Ridge in the beginning. Anytime Donnie's older sister is on the phone with someone, she's talking to Frank
|
|
|
Post by Twitchmonkey on Jun 5, 2004 16:46:32 GMT -5
Anyone catch that Frank is Elizabeth's Boyfriend? Donnie rides right past him on his way down from Carpathian Ridge in the beginning. Anytime Donnie's older sister is on the phone with someone, she's talking to Frank Yeah the phone conversation was cut from the film.......I really hope the directors cut helps the movie in these places
|
|
|
Post by nobody on Jun 7, 2004 8:31:30 GMT -5
Here's my take on the movie... The Tangent Universe doesn't occur because of Donnie getting out of bed, it occurs becauseof some imbalance in the Fourth Dimension, which allows the jet engine (artifact) to fall off of the plane on Oct 30 into the wormhole above Donnie's house to Oct 2. Frank gets Donnie out of bed because Donnie is chosen as the Living Receiver, the only one who can close the Tangent Universe by returning the artifact. Frank is a messanger from God whose mission is to lead Donnie along God's channel to returning the artifact back through the wormhole. As stated before, Donnie floods the school so he can meet Gretchen and burns down Jim Cunningham's house so both parents won't be home the night of the Halloween party. The only reason most of the events in the movie occur is that Frank and the other living are leading Donnie to return the artifact. When Mrs. Pomeroy writes "Cellar Door " on the board, it inspires Donnie to go to Roberta Sparrow's cellar door on Oct 30, where Frank runs over Gretchen. This is Frank's Ensurance Trap (coincidentally the title of the chapter on the DVD). Donnie has to kill Frank because if he doesn't, Frank won't come to him as a manipulated dead on Oct 2 and won't save him from the engine, dooming humanity. Dommie never time travels, he just uses his powers to rip the engine off of his mother's plane to return it through the wormhole, closing the tangent universe and "rewinding" events up until the tangent universe began. Donnie and all of the other Living think it was a dream, that's why Jim Cunningham wakes up as from a nightmare and Frank is touching his eye. Donnie dies because Frank doesn't save him this time and he doesn't think a jet engine is going to crash on him. He is laughing at the end because he thinks he just woke up from a really weird dream. Donnie didn't have to die--since the tangent universe wasn't created by cheating death but by an imbalance Donnie corrected in the tangent universe, Frank wouldn't have come to him as a Manipulated Dead and Donnie wouldn't have met Gretchen in the first place. Had Donnie survived, he wouldn't have done any of the things he did during the Tangent Universe so Frank and Gretchen wouldn't have died. I believe that God is intervening in the tangent universe to get Donnie to return the artifact--he manipulates Frank and all of the people close to Donnie. The whole movie really focuses around Donnie deciding whether or not to follow God's chosen path and save the world. Ok, I'm done confusing myself.
|
|
|
Post by im confused on Jul 6, 2004 17:47:31 GMT -5
i seriously do not get this movie and it makes me mad. some stuff that i read helped but i still dont get this. if the plane in the tangent universe closed the wormhole thingy then there was no problem with time? someone wrote that god sent frank into the tangent universe to get donnie to do all those things and know that he needed to die to prevent things from happening...so god sent frank so that the wormhole would be closed. but if the wormhole was closed in the tangent universe why did donnie need to die? because if the wormhole was closed in the tangent universe then when it all went back the october 2, 1988, there would be no need for god to send frank to talk to donnie. and then donnie wouldnt have done those things again...i'm so confused. i need to stop thinking about it. it's driving me crazy...
|
|
|
Post by deetsnai on Jul 7, 2004 4:13:05 GMT -5
my take: 1.first post rite minus god part 2. why was donnie led out of his room in the first place? because there would be no plane engine without the tangent universe being created in the first place. so he had to be let out for it to to kill him in the first place 3. the whole time travel theme is different then other movies, all time is not on the same line. the tangent universe is not parrell to teh real one, it is like a fork in the road, if u go one, the other doesnt happen. 4. why did donnie die if he would have never done those things cuz of the bunny rabbit etc? couldnt he just live on? no, he didnt want to die alone, if he would have kept living he would have never met gretchin (rabbit , flood etc), but when he died he still remembered her and he didnt die alone. i hope that made sense, if u have any questions all clarify for u?
|
|
|
Post by Closhedbb on Jul 23, 2004 2:05:53 GMT -5
The entire setup of the tangent universe was a manipulation created by the manipulating dead and living to create a scenario in which Donnie would be willing to send the jet engine back in time to where he was sleeping. If everything in the movie hadn't happened, Gretchen dying, his mother being on the plane, etc... then Donnie would have no reason to send the engine back, killing himself. Frank and the others set up everything and guided Donnie so the tangent universe would be such that Donnie would use the powers he was given to send the engine back. It had to be worth it to him to do it, and since Gretchen dies and his mother was on the plane, it became worth it, which is why he sent the engine back, knowing he would die as a result.
|
|
|
Post by angel on Jul 29, 2004 22:57:18 GMT -5
wow....its so nice to see some intelligent theories here. i know this is alot later than the messages i am replying too but i really hope that you guys still come here and read this!! ive been a fan forever and just came upon this site. i agree with alot of the different theories, but im not 100% one way or the other, i love listening to different possibilities. one thing i wanted to say was that ericdraven has alot of good ideas, only one little thing i dont agree with: the tangent universe wasnt caused by donnie or ended by donnie. he was just chosen to guide it/make things happen sort of thing. OR maybe the tangent universe was created FOR him...so he could see this stuff, no other reason other than that...maybe?? see, when frank gives him the days/hours/minutes/seconds, its already determined that the universe will close at that time. donnie just helps it out....(sorry no better way to explain what im thinking) also, donnie doesnt die alone AT ALL!! he is miserable in the beginning of the movie...and i think that it was his preset time to die...but he needed to see everything else to know that he was indeed loved, and yet everything in the tangent universe REALLY happened and everyone remembers. hense the last scene. everyone has these memories, and the only way for them to explain it to themselves is to think it was a dream...but its in their heads either way. and donnie is laughing at the end because everything is ok...he is at peace...he can die and he knows its ok. gretchen wasnt alone either, she knows donnie existed in the end...she waves to his mother and oddly enough they look at eachother as if they know eachother..BECAUSE THEY DO!!.
|
|
|
Post by jabmah on Aug 7, 2004 4:52:18 GMT -5
frank skrewed up gods plan for darko so with the help of the spheres and worm hole gods will was eventually done
|
|
|
Post by jabmah on Aug 7, 2004 4:54:12 GMT -5
WORD erics got the mad world theories going. keep it up
|
|
|
Post by jabmah on Aug 7, 2004 4:59:19 GMT -5
i got a whole sumise of my view on another discusion board here under (from the general menu) ''DARKO DISCUSSION" then "HOW DID DONNIE TRAVEL BACK IN TIME?" under Jabmahn of de north called "SORRY BUT NO! BAD MOVIE FAN!" let me know whts agreed with or not im hooked on this damn movie and will be forever im sure of it. paradoxes rule!
|
|
|
Post by jabmah on Aug 7, 2004 5:00:53 GMT -5
it is the same in back to the future 2
|
|
|
Post by SubZero on Aug 15, 2004 23:12:47 GMT -5
When the engine is returned to the wormhole at the end, wouldn't it go back to the future where it came from? Therefore it wouldn't be possible for it to again arrive from the future and kill Donnie.
|
|