dgrrr
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Post by dgrrr on Apr 13, 2007 18:30:15 GMT -5
First, let me apologize in advance if this question is addressed elsewhere. It must be. If so, just provide a link and I'll try to delete this thead. I did a LOT of reading here while waiting for my membership approval, and in the meantime I found most of the answers to my questions about DD were here already. But I don't remember finding this one.
It's pretty simple. As I understand it, the artifact must be returned to the PU, thru the body of the LR. The artifact is the jet engine that initially misses Donnie, and is then taken away to a gov't hangar (in the TU).
Therefore, the jet engine that comes off of the airborne plane in the TU is the wrong "copy" of engine. The other, correct engine -- the true artifact, which must be returned to the PU -- is still in a hangar in the TU.
My assumptions are based on reading that suggests the need to return the artifact is basically cleaning up after "corruption" rather than restoring the "imbalance" of having two copies of the same object in the same universe, as some have suggested -- in which case, perhaps any copy will do. (I do remember reading that, somewhere....)
The wording of the POTT emphasizes the return of the Artifact to the PU. It says "Artifacts returned to the Primary Universe are linked with religious iconography," and mentions the Artifact's "journey back to the Primary Universe". I want to say that the object, imbued with this terrible corruption, would have to be the same exact object. Because that's "neater", more satisfying to me. But I can't really say WHY.
What do you think?
Thanks
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Post by Bigboy on Apr 14, 2007 14:59:43 GMT -5
If they are identical down to the atom, is it possible to distinguish between them?
(If you have two fundamental particles with the exact same properties, you can actually consider them to be the same particle...)
If nothing can really distinguish the two engines in terms of physical properties (or metaphysical properties for that matter), does it really matter which of them goes through the portal?
After all, it doesn;t matter which pint of Jack you drink - you get just as drunk either way...
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Post by Laur on May 13, 2007 8:19:04 GMT -5
can anyone tell me what metaphysical questions this movie raises and why
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Post by twinkle on May 13, 2007 11:22:33 GMT -5
^? ? that would be up to you to answer and question. met-a-phys-ics=the branch of philosophy that addresses questions about the ultimate composition of reality, including the relationship between mind and matter, substance and attribute, fact and value; a priori speculation upon questions that are unanswerable to scientific observation, analysis, or experiment [The American Heritage College dic-tion-ar-y, 3rd edition, 1997, Houghton Mifflin Company] a good dictionary is an invaluable resource!
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Post by thepretender on May 13, 2007 12:39:21 GMT -5
I think it raises questions about deja vous.
I get them now and then and since they happen when I am conscious and not dreaming I really do wonder about them.
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Post by Everburn on Jun 8, 2007 21:57:39 GMT -5
It makes complete sense if the engine which falls was built in the 28 days in the TU... I dont know how long it takes to make an engine...
You need to look at this linear-ly (if thats a word... im trying to say 'in a linear way').
Jet engine falls-----Taken away---Jet engine is built----atatched to plane----ripped off and taken back in time
The falling jet engine is from the future
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Post by percieve on Jul 6, 2007 2:34:34 GMT -5
Lets take this to the website,
the engine falls from the sky in the PU correct? kills donnie at the end of the film.
If the engine was built in the TU and a replica in the TU one goes to the PU
so in the phone call is one caller in the PU and one in the TU?
are they connected mentally not physically..if you know what im saying..
why does one caller end the call?
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Post by Bigboy on Jul 6, 2007 13:17:51 GMT -5
Lets take this to the website, the engine falls from the sky in the PU correct? kills donnie at the end of the film. If the engine was built in the TU and a replica in the TU one goes to the PU so in the phone call is one caller in the PU and one in the TU? are they connected mentally not physically..if you know what im saying.. why does one caller end the call? The engine that comes from the TU is the plane's original engine, it just happens to come from the TU which itself is a copy of the PU. When it arrives in the PU it naturally matches exactly it's own PU counterpart which is still attached to the plane. One person in the conversation is a perplexed technician from heathro, the other an FAA/MIB agent. Both very much in the PU The FAA sends the engine (or parts of it) to a British team of experts who identify the engine as an exact copy of another inservice - which simply shouldn't be. The result is what we hear in the phone conversation.
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Post by percieve on Jul 6, 2007 22:53:44 GMT -5
Oh ok so the TU is basically a mirror of the PU...
but why is the call abrubtly ended
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Post by Bigboy on Jul 8, 2007 8:56:57 GMT -5
To avoid the inevitable questions the tech would start to ask - he had all the info he wanted.
The FAA are presented more like "MIB"; secrecy and covert operations... all the more interesting when you consider other info from the site (Monitoffs past association with CIA/NASA, his myterious death, hiding the POTT).
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