Reed
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Post by Reed on Jun 15, 2005 22:45:44 GMT -5
Actually we do see his mother smoking early in the film (in a deleted scene which may be restored in Director's Cut). The night after the engine has fallen and they all stay in a hotel, Donnie's Mom is by a window finishing a cigarette, which her husband tells her to put out and come to bed. It would make sense, though, that she only smokes to deal with stressful situations. In fact, in both scenes, it is after the engine has hit the house (once in each Universe). It might actually be the same cigarette in both scenes. Pretty cool, huh? |
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Post by Snake on Jun 25, 2005 13:36:34 GMT -5
LOl it probably was. Is donnies sister the only one who didnt know about his sacrifice considering she wasnt asleep - thats pretty crap considering your the only one who didnt know what happened to your brother.
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Post by Bigboy on Jun 25, 2005 13:48:40 GMT -5
I think that's a mis-interpretation of the POTT.
I don't think you need to be asleep to remember, rather you remember the experience like you would a dream - hazy and fast fading.
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Post by out of the box on Jul 16, 2006 1:17:26 GMT -5
haha....
or it could be simply the fact that her son just died??
(stressful situation)
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Post by Spencer Hale on Jan 24, 2007 20:31:44 GMT -5
I am happy that another person noticed what a beautiful part of the movie that is. In this part of the movie there many things to be taken into account. First Rose is smoking because she always does, her smoking and drinking seemed to have stemmed from her inability to cope with Donnie. Her smoking just is in keeping with here character. The reason why Gretchen and Rose have this moment is for I) to show even more that even after the tangent universe is destroyed the players remember what had happened (momentarily), II) to show a connection between two characters that you have not seen in the rest of the movie, III) to show that two characters (being more adult) who would have been dead in the tangent universe can connect on a subconscious level. These are the basic reasons why this part is in the movie.
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Post by thepretender on Jan 26, 2007 23:48:27 GMT -5
"two characters (being more adult) who would have been dead in the tangent universe can connect on a subconscious level."
ooooh...I love the feeling that that sentence gave me...
It was a really neat moment in the film...a sweet moment...I remember thinking how gretchen would have loved hanging out at the darko home and what a loss it was for them, not knowing each other.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Mar 19, 2007 20:24:44 GMT -5
I was reading this article on the "mindfuck" movie phenomenon, and it brought up a theory that I've not heard before, that the entire events proceeding the jet engine accident were imagined by his mother. I 'm pretty sure that's not what this thread was alluding to, and while I'm sure it's nothing new to frequent posters in this particular forum, I thought I'd post it for the uninitiated. Sure, it doesn't really work with POTT, but personally, I often don't like to consider POTT canon because it makes the movie seem less epic. |
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Post by Twinkle Twinkle Killer Kane on Mar 20, 2007 11:08:10 GMT -5
wow! that is really a great article Twitchmonkey: thanks for the link.  had not heard of the proposition put forth by the author; very intriguing (i agree: sometimes worth it to set aside POTT as holy writ; can open up other interesting possibilities of interpretation). also, the observation of the difference in Donnie's behavior/character, pre- and post-crash, was a new one to me. was reminded by the article of another film: Seconds w/Rock Hudson, a chilling look at identity and "second" chances (though more of a cautionary, morality tale, it does mess w/one's head, literally!). |
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Post by Twinkle Twinkle Killer Kane on Mar 20, 2007 11:49:43 GMT -5
also, what the author says regarding deconstructionism is most compelling.
it leaves definitive answers to questions such as "where did the first jet engine come from?" and "why did/didn't Donnie remain in bed?" floating like jellyfish, beautifully within our sight, and temptingly near our grasp yet ultimately impossible for us to nail down conclusively.
(attempts to do the last would ruin the mystery and make a terrible mess of the invertebrate! ;D)
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Post by Omnipotent on Mar 21, 2007 0:41:29 GMT -5
Interesting article, but I find it highly unlikely that the whole 'Mother imagining everything' interpretation was what Richard Kelly intended people to take away from Donnie Darko. I'll give him credit though, I've never heard anybody mention that idea before.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Mar 21, 2007 2:32:57 GMT -5
Richard Kelly wanted the audience to take away a criticism of the school system. It's not his movie anymore. He lost the rights to it when he released the DC. Now it belongs to everyone.
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Post by Omnipotent on Mar 21, 2007 7:25:38 GMT -5
It's not his movie anymore. He lost the rights to it when he released the DC. Now it belongs to everyone. No Twitch it doesn't, it belongs to me and me only. Don't ever respond to anything I say again or I'll shoot you in the eye with my father's pistol |
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Mar 21, 2007 14:54:25 GMT -5
Bad Bunny! Shoo!
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Post by lewis on Sept 19, 2017 14:59:53 GMT -5
Will Donnie's mother and sister die because they have to to make the whole thing possible , I mean the plain has to crash for the jet to fall ryt meaning the mother and sister die ryt
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Post by Grandpa death on Feb 25, 2018 20:54:10 GMT -5
Actually Kelly states that the wave is meaningless, he saw it in another movie and just threw it in there.
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