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Post by kristie on Aug 9, 2004 10:59:30 GMT -5
I saw the Directors Cut this weekend & it was AWESOME!!!! Has anyone else seen it? Watcha think?
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Post by MoonageDaydream on Aug 9, 2004 11:46:38 GMT -5
I thought it definitely was an excellent movie. I don't think it was necessarily a better movie than the original. But it wasn't necessarily worse, either. I've become so used to the original that the whole thing seemed like a totally different movie to me. I didn't understand a few things, and I didn't agree with a few things that were changed from the original, but that's not my place to complain. The movie was just so AWESOME to see in theaters. And when that opening song came on, I was crunched up in my seat singing along to INXS, and so was pretty much everyone else in the audience, so I think it was a pretty mutual "Two thumbs way, way up" from the entire room.
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Post by rightfielder21 on Sept 5, 2004 9:16:58 GMT -5
Agreed... I thought it was very good, but a "different" movie...
I liked all the deleted and extended scenes that they added in... I thought they helped the story greatly...
I could have done without all the "eye" shots and TPOTT pages during the movie, especially the "Dreams" one at the end...
It was great too see on the big screen though....
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Sept 5, 2004 18:26:53 GMT -5
All I can say is they added some stuff that improved the movie they took out some stuff that messed up the movie and they added some more stuff that was totally unnecessary.....but its still a must-own for all DD fans
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Post by gretchen on Sept 5, 2004 20:52:08 GMT -5
haven't seen it... but i think what kelly was trying to do with this cut was make the movie a little easier for the "general public", hence this is the version that made it to re-release.
it's not playing anywhere near me, i am sad to say.
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Post by christopher on Mar 2, 2005 4:05:50 GMT -5
I bought the new directors cut last week and I think I am gonna sell it at GAMESTOP this week and just keep the original cut for my collection. Finding out that these "future scientists" were behind it all and not GOD or some other higher power just cheapens the movie to me. The original was a work of art. It was the story of this non-believer who was conscripted by GOD to be a hero and that Grandma Death was this prophet who would guide him. But all this sci-f crap is for the birds. I like Sci-fi, dont get me wrong. But it doesnt belong here. I just hope I can forget what I seen.
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Post by Twitch on Mar 2, 2005 4:49:28 GMT -5
I bought the new directors cut last week and I think I am gonna sell it at GAMESTOP this week and just keep the original cut for my collection. Finding out that these "future scientists" were behind it all and not GOD or some other higher power just cheapens the movie to me. The original was a work of art. It was the story of this non-believer who was conscripted by GOD to be a hero and that Grandma Death was this prophet who would guide him. But all this sci-f crap is for the birds. I like Sci-fi, dont get me wrong. But it doesnt belong here. I just hope I can forget what I seen. It can be difficult but perhaps some meditation would help?
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Post by Madridarko on Mar 3, 2005 14:49:23 GMT -5
I haven't seen it in theaters, but I should be getting it soon for B-day present. Hope it is as good as you describe it here!
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Post by Omnipotent on Mar 8, 2005 12:54:59 GMT -5
I haven't seen it in theaters, but I should be getting it soon for B-day present. Hope it is as good as you describe it here! It's not.
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Post by gretchen on Mar 8, 2005 17:13:20 GMT -5
lol...
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Post by Pax on Mar 9, 2005 1:02:08 GMT -5
As I said elsewhere, the DC, having watched it twice, once w/o commentary and once with; is essentially a different film than the first version. I had speculated previously that the oblique nature and feel of the first version led to its overall effect and appeal. And while the DC is not that much more explicit in its meaning, it certainly doesn't lend itself so easily to the idea that God was behind Donnie's experiences. I think both versions are equally valid and interesting, but I by far prefer the original. Also, the original or DC music edit is not as effective as the original. It's fascinating that the cuts and changes Kelly was forced to make ended up making a cult classic and a highly moving and effective film, as opposed to a less effective film in the director's cut. But no doubt Kelly is a promising talent and I eagerly await "Southland Tales." Anyway...
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Post by Madridarko on Mar 12, 2005 19:59:04 GMT -5
I recieved DC today for my birthday... so I watched it, and ahhhh, over all I don't know what to opinion about it. but between DC and original DD I have a slight preference over DD because of several reasons. First of all I did like the fact that in DC they added some or all deleted scence and they modified and edited special effects (specially that annoying hand in the solar plexus spear scene!) but I think they also just messed around with it a bit too excessvily, specially the music. Some of the new selections were awesome, but they took away some of the old background music, which was a bummer.. For example the autumn angel/cherita scene where they zoom out with her sitting under the mongrell, well they took away the music to that scene so it took away all of it's emotionall power it conjured. They also took away some good scence for example in donnie's first encounter with Frank, in the deleted scence of DD, Frank says "God loves all his children" which I was really hoping for it to be included, but they ended up shortining that scene and they dont' even show Donnie's fall when he says "ok" to Franks remark of the end of the world. Some scence have too much digital effect, like at the end when all the time is "rewinding" they place these firework display infront of the screen in a way almost hiding the screen. The eye effect is cool though, eventhough it makes me wonder if it's donnie's eye or god's eye.... I am also glad they have removed the googly eye cheap&cheasy effect when donnie see's into Gretch's spear....
Also, the DC takes up two freaken CD's and it has way less special fetures and interactive stuff...
It was also freaky seeing the fan stuff on the extra cd, because it was all on British people(no offense) but just the general way they expressed themselves and the reasons they gave for DD being a bigger hit in UK and not US, it was bothersome... Whoever was filming them was also a terrible camarographer, sometimes there were zoom ins to the peoples faces in which I could swear I could see every single little prespiring pore on the people's faces. One last complaint, there was a "darkomentary" made by a fan.. that was the most disturbing yet pittiful thing ever... That guy was crazy and obssessed with Donnie to a point he did not posses a life.. Every single movement of his existance he had to relate to Donnie Darko and he was an idiot... He even did a kiss Kelly and run move towards the end of the film... He was the most pathetic being I have ever seen in my life.....
So yeah.. that is my review on the DD DC DVD...
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Post by Anger prisoner on Mar 27, 2005 3:16:00 GMT -5
I liked it .
I felt it was an improvement over all. But one of my biggest problems with the original release, was that it was not able to give you enough clues within its own context for you to completely figure out the full weight of what the hell was going on.
I mean I love the movie and all, but shouldn't a movie be able to tell a story completely on its own without the viewer having to go to the website and read the POTT to get put on the right track? The new version makes things more clear. Which lets less obsessive people that normally wouldn't research a movie have a shot at figuring it out just from watching the movie a few times.
As for the scientist/god delimma . Richard Kelley has already said that the movie was intended to be borderline open ended to where you could look at it from more than one point of view. I think he was aiming for more of the Deus Ex Mahina, God machine aspect With the DC. I could be wrong but I don't think he flat out said that theyre were scientists controlling it all as the only fact. Only that when showing the new special effects with the digital code and such it gives you a feeling of it having a more tecnical aspect perhaps giving us a different perspective of God than the image we usually think of.
But also note that Kelley never really gives a definitive answer to what is really going on . Even when he answers questions he still says they are from HIS interpretation of his own Clues. Even according to him people can still interpret the whole thing as a Schizo-dillusion (A cheap cop-out, but whatever) There are holes in every theory....thats whats great about the movie!!
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Post by Madridarko on Mar 27, 2005 9:15:11 GMT -5
Oh, yeah I forgot to mention about that, but yeah I agree that the adding of the POTT text along the movie is a good thing for first-time observing people and I like the over all effect of the addition of the pages it's an awesome thing....
And for the whole "God eye machine" I think the effect itself is really good, but it arises so many questions that can not be discused as thourouly because they would be based on pure assumption... but I definatly enjoy the fact that it does give another point of view from which to view god from......
I forgot who said this or how it went exactly but it was something like umm...
"God rules the universe through the laws of physics" or maybe it was "through science" or something like that....
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Post by Anger prisoner on Mar 27, 2005 13:14:13 GMT -5
I didn't listen to the whole commentary (because Kevin Smith was getting on my nerves by getting off of the topic and talking about himself to much) but Richard did mention that the EYE special effects were representing Donnies powers awakening. But wheter God/Scientists are turning them on is open to interpretation. I like to think Donnie is reasonably in control but is just being strung along by all the other manipulated. Good thread!!
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