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Post by Sarah on Jul 31, 2004 11:08:58 GMT -5
Didnt anyone else get that donnie darko was supossed to be a super hero??
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Post by reignman on Aug 1, 2004 2:11:13 GMT -5
yes.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Aug 1, 2004 2:12:45 GMT -5
a psuedosuperhero yes...that was even said in the commentary
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Post by GretchenFan on Aug 25, 2004 23:20:06 GMT -5
I don't think he was supposed to be a super hero. Most super heros have capes and as far as I know, Donnie never wore a cape in the movie. Also, he probably would have had to have some sort of spandex get-up with a logo on the front or something.
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Post by cherrybombbaby on Aug 26, 2004 3:39:34 GMT -5
superheroes only donn that getup to protect their civilian identitys, not as a rule...donnie was a superhero while he slept...stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason...don't be fooled
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Post by Pax on Aug 28, 2004 21:19:05 GMT -5
CherryBomb, yes, exactly. This movie presents a new way of thinking about the superhero paradigm. A super-powered individual, in "real" life, wouldn't put on tights and a cape. "Donnie Darko" is like a companion piece to the brilliant "Unbreakable" by M. Night However you spell his last name. (Sorry M. Night!)
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Post by Chase on Aug 29, 2004 0:34:45 GMT -5
Sort of a tragic superhero...he ends up losing what he loves and martyrs himself in a sense...
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Post by Pax on Aug 31, 2004 23:33:06 GMT -5
Yes. Which brings us back to the Jesus Christ parallel. Christ gave up perfection and immortality to live and die as a human so that we may live eternally, paying the price for our debt of sin. Again, one cannot escape the Christ allegory in this film. Peace out.
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Post by GretchenFan on Sept 1, 2004 1:23:53 GMT -5
superheroes only donn that getup to protect their civilian identitys, not as a rule...donnie was a superhero while he slept...stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason...don't be fooled Again, I have to disagree. ALL superheroes wear spandex getups and costumes by definition. It's what makes them superheroes. I think Donnie was just a super guy who happens to be a hero - not a true super hero in the traditional sense. Plus, ALL superheroes MUST, by definition, have an alter-ego / alter-name. Clark Kent was Superman. Peter Parker was Spiderman. Donnie Darko was....well, he was just Donnie Darko, plain and simple. Also, perhaps you didn't see it in my first post, but Donnie lacked a cape.
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Post by Pax on Sept 7, 2004 20:51:53 GMT -5
Okay. Where to begin? Costumes don't make super-heroes, their powers/abilities make them "super." And, at the risk of sounding like a geeky bastard, comics such as "Starman" feature a character who is a super-hero who doesn't wear a costume. And in the first two issues of the immortal Fantastic Four (back in 1961, and no I'm not that old) the whole damn crew didn't wear costumes. Damn it, I said that the movie presented a new way (repeat: NEW WAY) of thinking about super-folks. Any damn body can put on some spandex (and many shouldn't). That doesn't make them super-heroes. What Kelly did was take the super-hero concept and looked at it through a new lens. He combined it with science-fiction elements, 80's teen movie elements, and religious/philosophical concepts, and made an impressive film. Just because Donnie didn't run around Middlesex callin' himself "Angst-Boy" or whatever doesn't mean he wasn't a type of "super-hero." Damn it. ;D
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Post by GretchenFan on Sept 7, 2004 23:00:34 GMT -5
Okay. Where to begin? Costumes don't make super-heroes, their powers/abilities make them "super." And, at the risk of sounding like a geeky bastard, comics such as "Starman" feature a character who is a super-hero who doesn't wear a costume. And in the first two issues of the immortal Fantastic Four (back in 1961, and no I'm not that old) the whole damn crew didn't wear costumes. Damn it, I said that the movie presented a new way (repeat: NEW WAY) of thinking about super-folks. Any damn body can put on some spandex (and many shouldn't). That doesn't make them super-heroes. What Kelly did was take the super-hero concept and looked at it through a new lens. He combined it with science-fiction elements, 80's teen movie elements, and religious/philosophical concepts, and made an impressive film. Just because Donnie didn't run around Middlesex callin' himself "Angst-Boy" or whatever doesn't mean he wasn't a type of "super-hero." Damn it. ;D I think we're going to just have to agree to disagree on this one. I respect your opinion, but it's clear TO ME that Donnie fails to meet all of the basic conditions to be classified as a super hero (ie no spandex and no cape. Did you also know that Donnie couldn't fly and did not have xray vision?). So, I respectfully disagree.
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Post by Elwood on Jan 17, 2005 12:24:14 GMT -5
GretchenFan, I know I'm coming late to the party here, but I have a few thoughts I'd like to add. This movie is so rich in symbolism and opportunities for interpretation that there is room for many different views on what is being said. Certainly seeing Donnie as a superhero is one valid view. As Pax has tried to point out to you, Donnie's superhero qualities are a bit of a variation on a theme. He's a new type of superhero, not exactly like the ones you're used to. Twitchmonkey put it succinctly at the top of the thread - he's a pseudosuperhero. He has superhero qualities, but he's not true to the traditional superhero character. Aside from having some overt superhero qualities (super strength, mission to save the world), Donnie also displays his superhero status in many of the ways that you've asked about, but have missed in the film. Donnie did, in fact, have X-ray vision. He saw right through Jim Cunningham, standing up to him and calling him the Antichrist. He also saw right through the gym teacher's simple-minded way of looking at the world, exposing it's lack of depth of understanding. He's also wearing a pseudocostume in the scenes where he is speaking to his psychiatrist about not wanting to die alone and immediately afterward, when he first sees the "water-spears". He is wearing a shirt with the word "TRIUMPH" in the center of his chest, reminiscent of a superhero logo. He triumphs not only by saving the world with his super strength and time travel powers, but he also triumphs over his own fear and alienation by finding love, reconnecting with his family, and ultimately finding God. Oh, and I wouldn't let your inability to see Donnie's cape stop you from viewing him as a superhero. It's a well known fact that superhero capes are invisible to trolls.
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Post by Phil on Jan 31, 2005 11:21:11 GMT -5
I don't think he was supposed to be a super hero. Most super heros have capes and as far as I know, Donnie never wore a cape in the movie. Also, he probably would have had to have some sort of spandex get-up with a logo on the front or something. Donnie did have a superhero costume. When ever frank talked to him, and donnie went to do something that would save the PU, he put the hood up on his hoodie!
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