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Post by John Vonck on Jun 11, 2005 18:15:56 GMT -5
Was there a purpose to all that Bush/Dukakis talk or not?
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Post by Bigboy on Jun 12, 2005 8:22:07 GMT -5
It firmly grounds the film in the era in which it is set - something 'real' that was going on at the time. Other than that I don't think it's important to Donnies story.
I never really read much into it other than that - any other thoughts anyone?
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Jun 14, 2005 13:16:52 GMT -5
I also like that bit for the dichotomies it suggests between generations: older/younger, republican/democrat, experienced and jaded v. inexperienced and idealistic. Given Kelly's intent -- that is, to scold the public school system and, in general, to point out that we're losing kids to apathy -- it seems reasonable to think that this conversation is thematically important for showing how differently youth see the world ... and that their idealism leads them to believe they can change it. Something integrally important to Donnie's ultimate decision ...
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Post by guest on Aug 21, 2005 10:22:02 GMT -5
i think it achieved it's purpose in bringing about the discussion of how they wanted their future children to be raised showing two extreme cases
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Post by frankthemessneger on Aug 24, 2005 4:21:25 GMT -5
I dont think that the Polotics Talk had anything to do with the Film really They were just disscussing it at the Diner table and here it was now on TV
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Post by Omnipotent on Aug 24, 2005 9:52:29 GMT -5
Yeah I just thought it was because the story is set in 1988 during the Bush vs. Dukakis election. It makes it look authentic.
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Post by frankthemessneger on Aug 24, 2005 11:18:24 GMT -5
Yeh as Omnipotent said it would make it Look athentic although does anyone know what they were actually talking about all i could hear was Donnies Father Swearing at them
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Post by Omnipotent on Aug 24, 2005 11:25:10 GMT -5
does anyone know what they were actually talking about all i could hear was Donnies Father Swearing at them They're talking about Emanuel Noriega's money laundering issues. |
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Aug 24, 2005 15:11:42 GMT -5
it was because the story is set in 1988 No doubt that was part of it. For me, it does underscore the theme of youth being a generation defined by condescension and dismissal from the generation before. Interesting to note that a central statement is "we're losing these kids to apathy" ... yet the children Darko, particularly big sis, seem at least interested and probably well-informed about the presidential candidates ... the opposite of apathy, I think. So are we to assume that not only are kids apathetic, but that they're made that way because their opinions and interests are stomped by the authorities of the older generation? That's an even bleaker outlook and harsher judgement than I've considered before ... |
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Post by Omnipotent on Aug 25, 2005 12:38:35 GMT -5
it was because the story is set in 1988 No doubt that was part of it. For me, it does underscore the theme of youth being a generation defined by condescension and dismissal from the generation before. Interesting to note that a central statement is "we're losing these kids to apathy" ... yet the children Darko, particularly big sis, seem at least interested and probably well-informed about the presidential candidates ... the opposite of apathy, I think. So are we to assume that not only are kids apathetic, but that they're made that way because their opinions and interests are stomped by the authorities of the older generation? That's an even bleaker outlook and harsher judgement than I've considered before ... Good thinking, I like that. |
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