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Post by MoonageDaydream on Jul 16, 2004 18:10:07 GMT -5
Before I start, let me say that I am glad that this is not in the final movie. I am glad though that it was in deleted scenes. The whole point of the impalement is not to be unrealistic, but it's to make you extra sad. It makes you sad because you realize that he wasn't just crushed. He was really close to living. Most people would've died in the actual crash. It kind of gives you false hope for a second that he mgiht've possibly survived. I was shaken when I saw this scene. I'm also praying that it doesn't make it into the Director's Cut *shivers*.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Jul 16, 2004 21:27:57 GMT -5
It was just very unrealistic......he was in his bed and a plane falls on him and then suddenly hes out of his bed and he gets killed by a stray wood plank....its just stupid really
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Post by losermonkey on Jul 29, 2004 22:40:14 GMT -5
The scene really creeped me out and I also hope that it isn't in the director's cut.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Jul 29, 2004 23:15:27 GMT -5
The scene really creeped me out and I also hope that it isn't in the director's cut. dont worry it isnt....unless its after the credits but I doubt that |
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Post by losermonkey on Jul 30, 2004 19:36:20 GMT -5
Thank you for telling me. ;D
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Post by ChaoticFluff678 on Aug 1, 2004 4:11:39 GMT -5
*didn't read the entire board*
I thought that it was a pipe that was rammed through Donnie, not a piece of wood. Could be mistaken, though.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Aug 1, 2004 4:16:11 GMT -5
*didn't read the entire board* I thought that it was a pipe that was rammed through Donnie, not a piece of wood. Could be mistaken, though. You could be right....I only bothered to watch it once |
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Sept 22, 2004 15:47:08 GMT -5
I agree that the scene doesn't add much to the movie, though I did like the MoonageDaydream's suggestion that it might add to the sadness you feel at the inevitability of Donnie's death (if you believe it was inevitable). I will editorialize for a moment and say: do any of us really know what the physics of a plummeting airplane engine are ... and how impausible it is that Donnie might have been hurtled out of bed and impaled on something? I mean -- is that any less likely than simply being crushed beneath the metal? I submit: probably not. Weird things happen in car crashes and the like; our chaos-theorist friends might tell you that, of all the possibilities, maybe him being pinned under the engine is the least likely ...  |
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Post by gretchen on Sept 23, 2004 15:02:16 GMT -5
i believe, providence... and this has been a few weeks since i watched the impalement scene, that the engine actually MISSES him. he is still in bed, and is impaled by a board that came from the ceiling when the engine fell through. you can clearly see that the engine does not fall on his bed, and does not crush him... even without the impalement scene.
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Sept 23, 2004 15:43:15 GMT -5
Ah -- thank you, G. To my very point (which was motivated by Twitchmonkey's feelings that Donnie not being crushed was "unrealistic" and "stupid"), then ... who's to say what realism looks like when several tons of aircraft propulsion machinery comes crashing into one's bedroom?
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Post by gretchen on Sept 23, 2004 17:45:55 GMT -5
exactly. |
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Sept 23, 2004 18:55:41 GMT -5
Ah -- thank you, G. To my very point (which was motivated by Twitchmonkey's feelings that Donnie not being crushed was "unrealistic" and "stupid"), then ... who's to say what realism looks like when several tons of aircraft propulsion machinery comes crashing into one's bedroom? I base my views on the theory that "heavy things crush people" and from what I saw it clearly fell on his bed and I see no way that after being hit with a plane engine youd still be alive let alone in another portion of the room impaled on a plank unless you somehow "bounced" at an unbelievable angle back into the room and landed on a plank almost in a standing position.....I do think knowing physics is required to see that this is pretty much impossible and even if it is its gory and unneccesary and would ruin the powerful ending the original leaves you with |
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Post by gretchen on Sept 23, 2004 19:53:58 GMT -5
sure heavy things crush people. if they LAND on people.
watch it AGAIN twitch. watch both scenes. you will see that the engine narrowly misses him. why ELSE would he be lying in his bed impaled by a piece of wood?
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Post by ProvidencePortal on Sept 24, 2004 10:44:54 GMT -5
Twitch, I see your point for sure. But let me suggest an excercise in how fun "what might happen" can be. Check out Magnolia, Paul Thomas Anderson's story of the tension between percieved patterns and chaos i our lives. It's a several stories that are at once highly-intertwined and at the same time absurdly so ... it makes you think, "what I believe must happen may, but even then nothing proves it's not just coincidence."
In that way, Magnolia would be a well-conceived thematic partner to Darko, because it raises parallel questions about destiny, providence, free will and how we come to believe in any of them.
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Post by Twitchmonkey on Sept 24, 2004 20:55:09 GMT -5
sure heavy things crush people. if they LAND on people. watch it AGAIN twitch. watch both scenes. you will see that the engine narrowly misses him. why ELSE would he be lying in his bed impaled by a piece of wood? But can we not agree its not a neccesary or a good scene? Do you really think this should be added back in? I havent viewed the scene over again yet but I have seen it 12 times and from what I've seen it looks like it fell right on em |
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